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5 players suspended for 5 games in 2011 regular season (Appeal has been denied)

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NFBuck;1839368; said:
They are given the opportunity to get an education at a top-notch university (on the house) and showcase their skills for a possible lucrative career as a professional athlete. All that's asked in return, ultimately, is to play a game. Spare me the "they're being used" crap.
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A top notch education that they will never use, let alone study for.....all the while the U passes them with the understanding they win football games. Sand isnt part of your world, so take your head out of it.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1839312; said:
We're not talking about kids who left early for the NFL when we wanted them to stay...or transferred out....or sat out a year to focus on academics. We're not even talking about dumb decisions like getting busted for underage drinking or a bar scuffle.

We're talking about kids who knowingly violated NCAA rules for personal gain thus putting the integrity of the football program and reputation of the university into question. The Ohio State football program is NOT a family--it's a multi-million dollar business attached to a multi-billion dollar research university The importance of the latter, I might add, is of vastly more importance to the economic future of Ohio than the football team. These kids accepted a responsibility to Ohio State University when they chose to come here, accept a scholarship and represent the university in a highly public manner. They abrogated that trust and didn't live up to that responsibility. I'm not going to pretend that I'm Solomon and know exactly what that punishment should be. However, even if it's not ultimately decided upon, dismissal from the program should at least be on the table.
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Oh I agree with you about this as far as the institution is concerned. I fully agree with the punishment handed out to the players and I would hope that Tressel sits all five of the players for the Sugar Bowl.

I'm mainly speaking to the fan base here, not the university itself. I think all of this negative reaction just re-confirms my beliefs that fans don't see athletes as people, but just as windup dolls. The minute those dolls stop working or they don't perform like they're supposed to, they're immediately discarded and done away with. As a fan, I was also extremely saddened and disappointed knowing they broke these rules. But also as a fan, I hope each and every one of these players learn from their mistakes and hopefully return to the team and make amends. If not then I wish them the best of luck in whatever future endeavors they decide to pursue.

I've said this to other people but I'll also add that it's a little strange that we're quick to tear these players down yet we forget about a QB with a troubled past who knowingly took $500 from a booster. What happened to him? He went on to win the Heisman trophy, led us to an NC appearance, and went 3-0 against Michigan.
 
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Onebuckfan;1839378; said:
Are the 5 going to comment on this or face the media?
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I think that it can be safely assumed that were 'politely suggested' to have no media contact for the time being. I would expect that if and when statements are made, they will come in the form of formal statements run through the relations department of the athletic program.
 
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BuckITilEyeDie;1839373; said:
A top notch education that they will never use, let alone study for.....all the while the U passes them with the understanding they win football games. Sand isnt part of your world, so take your head out of it.
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If you believe this, you're part of the problem.
 
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jimotis4heisman said:
their are reasonable means to obtain reasonable help for student athletes (as well as students at large). your excuse, along with the moral/ethical logic are truly lacking.

but justify it how you must...
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I really have no idea what you are talking about with reasonable help in reasonable ways for the student... Getting a job? Taking out student loans to pay for things which are not student related? Dropping out to work full-time?

You question my logic. My moral/ethical logic was stated as: it would be prudent to sell whatever we own that is a luxury item (i.e. the things we have that we do no need) in order to help family. I sincerely hope you do not disagree with that statement.

You state that I made an excuse... where did I do that?

I also state that all of this, everything, is speculation. However, if this was the case then their violations are not diminishing to Ohio State's integrity. Integrity is NOT defined by how many NCAA violations one has or does not have.

Please tell me where I have failed here. And if you have read anything I've written on this thread, I would hope you don't think I'm justifying what they did with a blanket statement. They should be punished for rule violations. Suspensions between 1-4 games would be appropriate and starting with the Sugar Bowl. But NCAA violations for selling things of which are your property is not necessarily a knock on "integrity".
 
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Anyone else think this puts Ohio State under a greater microscope in regards to the NCAA in future years?

Probably not likely, since OSU conducted everything and just submitted its finding to the NCAA.
 
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Ryan36_1;1839385; said:
I think that it can be safely assumed that were 'politely suggested' to have no media contact for the time being. I would expect that if and when statements are made, they will come in the form of formal statements run through the relations department of the athletic program.
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I am tired of SPIN I just want honesty..not some PR crap:(
 
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