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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

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ORD_Buckeye said:
Tressel couldn't have erased them. He could have tried, but they stayed on the server, which is where the grad student accessed them. Now, Smith and Gee could have buried it, paid off the grad student and went full Ono on the NCAA. Maybe it would have worked, but if it didn't the program gets nuked, Urban probably doesn't come and 2014 definitely doesn't happen.
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This isn't totally accurate. He could have deleted them before they were backed up on the email server as part of his mailstore, plus, again depending on their backup schedule, if the retention period of the Exchange DAG was expired, they wouldn't be recoverable.

Seeing as it's quite unlikely he's tech saavy enough to have known this, but it's theoretically possible to have deleted the emails before his mailstore was backed up (usually an incremental backup type) and before the Exchange DAG was backed up. Once those emails sat in his mailstore for probably a day (guessing at their backup schedule back then, it wasn't instantaneous), it was captured in their data backup/recovery set up and then subject to data retention laws, such as they were in 2009/2010. Depending on when the Exchange DAG was backed up and what the retention period is for it, they could have been on there but "deleted" for the user for a potentially significantly longer time.

Had to go through this stuff a few dozen times around that timeframe when I worked at WPAFB. Pain in the arse.

Edit to add: I'm assuming they were using Exchange in 2009/2010 and guessing they were using some sort of Veritas NetBackup.
 
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Mike80 said:
This isn't totally accurate. He could have deleted them before they were backed up on the email server as part of his mailstore, plus, again depending on their backup schedule, if the retention period of the Exchange DAG was expired, they wouldn't be recoverable.

Seeing as it's quite unlikely he's tech saavy enough to have known this, but it's theoretically possible to have deleted the emails before his mailstore was backed up (usually an incremental backup type) and before the Exchange DAG was backed up. Once those emails sat in his mailstore for probably a day (guessing at their backup schedule back then, it wasn't instantaneous), it was captured in their data backup/recovery set up and then subject to data retention laws, such as they were in 2009/2010. Depending on when the Exchange DAG was backed up and what the retention period is for it, they could have been on there but "deleted" for the user for a potentially significantly longer time.

Had to go through this stuff a few dozen times around that timeframe when I worked at WPAFB. Pain in the arse.

Edit to add: I'm assuming they were using Exchange in 2009/2010 and guessing they were using some sort of Veritas NetBackup.
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This takes me back to working near wright pat with some former coworkers who used to work on base mostly as contractors but a few military. 2013-2018 ish

So much backup exec.
 
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dragurd said:
This takes me back to working near wright pat with some former coworkers who used to work on base mostly as contractors but a few military. 2013-2018 ish

So much backup exec.
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Yep - I was a contractor there for a while but I left for another job in the spring of 2010. Other than for 1 softball tournament, 1 baseball tournament and taking the kids to the museum once, I've not been back though. Maybe when the Buc'ees opens :lol:
 
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How on God's green Earth can this be spun as this being trouble brewing for the NCAA?

The political element of this concerns me. Some of the media cares and some do not. The weird spins like this is also concerning. As is the case with corporate punishment, many times they skate because of lobbying pressure.

www.essentiallysports.com

Trouble Brewing for NCAA as National Analyst Exposes Fallout From Michigan’s Response in Jim Harbaugh’s Defense

It’s like getting pulled over for speeding in a Lamborghini—you are fined, but you still drive. So, call the ambulance—but not for Michigan.
www.essentiallysports.com
 
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osuvictory1 said:
How on God's green Earth can this be spun as this being trouble brewing for the NCAA?

The political element of this concerns me. Some of the media cares and some do not. The weird spins like this is also concerning. As is the case with corporate punishment, many times they skate because of lobbying pressure.

www.essentiallysports.com

Trouble Brewing for NCAA as National Analyst Exposes Fallout From Michigan’s Response in Jim Harbaugh’s Defense

It’s like getting pulled over for speeding in a Lamborghini—you are fined, but you still drive. So, call the ambulance—but not for Michigan.
www.essentiallysports.com
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Written by a soccer player who extensively quotes Jose Pate. Not worried.
 
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The "fallout" of huge penalties wouldn't come from the fans outside of DFBIA, but of course the national sports media would likely cry about it.

The spin that Michigan has the upper hand on the NCAA is hilarious. If that were true this woulda been settled already and scUM wouldn't keep delaying dodging and deflecting.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
Intellectual dishonesty at it's best. Scum put their cherry picked response out there and of course their media minions run with it.

gbmwolverine.com

The Hammer is Never Coming, But Michigan Already Put a Nail in the NCAAs Coffin

Overblown Hysteria The entire saga felt more like a media-driven spectacle than a legitimate threat. Opponents of the Wolverines, many of whom had been waiting
gbmwolverine.com gbmwolverine.com
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Media driven spectacle??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

The major college football carrying platforms have barely mentioned it since the 1st like week it hit, and in that time they all played it off like it was no big deal.
 
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I don’t get the “the NCAA has no teeth” takes…,

When has the NCAA failed to punish major infractions? They’ve also hit hard and they’ve always done so by giving post season bans and vacated wins.

Every. Single. Time.

So go ahead and hold out that the NCAA doesn’t have the balls. Tell that to USC, Penn State, Ohio State, Arizona State, Louisville, Kentucky, etc.

They’re on deck and it’s going to be hilarious to see the responses of “how can they do this!”
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
I don’t get the “the NCAA has no teeth” takes…,

When has the NCAA failed to punish major infractions? They’ve also hit hard and they’ve always done so by giving post season bans and vacated wins.

Every. Single. Time.

So go ahead and hold out that the NCAA doesn’t have the balls. Tell that to USC, Penn State, Ohio State, Arizona State, Louisville, Kentucky, etc.

They’re on deck and it’s going to be hilarious to see the responses of “how can they do this!”
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Miami and UNC mostly. Miami they done fucked up in the process. UNC they suddenly decided fake classses feel outside their realm
 
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