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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

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osuvictory1 said:
They literally hired the BYU DC. LOL!. Their setting themselves up for having to pay for their roster.

That dude isn't going to be able to simply walk into a school in Columbus/Cleveland, or a high school in GA or FL and just create a relationship that never existed.
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ScAM Webb is reporting that Whittingham is going to fill the staff with 7 or 8 guys from Utah/BYU. this is complete mediocrity in the making. Those guys work well in the vacuum of those programs but the odds of them fitting in well at scUM are not very good

On the field strategy isn't a total culture shock like it was with Rich Rod but literally everything else will be a radical change.
 
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Jay Hills whole career is either at Utah Weber State or BYU. It's a big step up in competition and a big change when it comes to the type of program and what you have to deal with at said type of program. I'm sure DFBIA sees this as a slam dunk but he wasn't upgrading jobs until Whittingham got hired late at scUM. He's been good at BYU but moving to scUM is a completely different monster, especially when they've been used to NFL caliber DCs, now they are saddled back with a pure college guy.
 
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woofermazing said:
I dunno, Jay Hill is known for his defense being Jim Knowles level complicated to learn. Bringing in new guys every year might not work out as intended.
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I hadn't really thought about this, but you make a good point about a change in the game. If your plan is to bring in a bunch of mercenaries for a year or maybe two, you better be bringing top talent or a DC who can manipulate his D to fit his personnel (very few can do this).

It'll be interesting to see how Cignetti s "we're just a bunch of misfits " shtick plays to the next batch of .... who? His previous gig is dry to him, more or less. At least as much as any other schools players are.

Edit: all to say, Dion is a cautionary tale here as well. In college, maybe culture and development matter. And, of course, let's not pretend college isn't a developmental league. :shrug:
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Jay Hills whole career is either at Utah Weber State or BYU. It's a big step up in competition and a big change when it comes to the type of program and what you have to deal with at said type of program. I'm sure DFBIA sees this as a slam dunk but he wasn't upgrading jobs until Whittingham got hired late at scUM. He's been good at BYU but moving to scUM is a completely different monster, especially when they've been used to NFL caliber DCs, now they are saddled back with a pure college guy.
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It just depends. Tressel made the step up from YSU to Ohio State and brought some assistants with him. Urban made the step up from Utah to Florida. Cignetti from JMU to Indiana and brought some assistants with him. It can be done. But, I hope that you are right.
 
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Utah record

2016 - 9-4
2017 - 7-6
2018 - 9-5
2019 - 11-3 (probably cheating?)
2020 - 3-2
2021 - 10-4 (accused of cheating)
2022 - 10-4 (accused of cheating)
2023 - 8-5
2024 - 5-7
2025 - 10-2 (trash schedule)

UM record

2016 - 10-3
2017 - 8-5
2018 - 10-3
2019 - 9-4
2020 - 2-4
2021 - 12-2 (cheating)
2022 - 13-1 (cheating)
2023 - 15-0 (cheating)
2024 - 8-5
2025 - 9-3 (trash schedule)
 
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scarletngray said:
It just depends. Tressel made the step up from YSU to Ohio State and brought some assistants with him. Urban made the step up from Utah to Florida. Cignetti from JMU to Indiana and brought some assistants with him. It can be done. But, I hope that you are right.
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Urban had Greg Mattison and Charlie Strong as Co-DCs, these were guys who had plenty of experience nationally. Mattison at scUM and ND and Strong at South Carolina and Florida before Meyer got there. Urban also had plenty of experience outside of that mormon sphere as well. He was only at Utah for 2 years.

Whittingham shoulda brought in at least one coordinator with more experience outside of that sphere to help with the transition. The guys he's bringing are all guys whove basically spent their whole careers in that bubble
 
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Buckeye86 said:
Utah record

2016 - 9-4
2017 - 7-6
2018 - 9-5
2019 - 11-3 (probably cheating?)
2020 - 3-2
2021 - 10-4 (accused of cheating)
2022 - 10-4 (accused of cheating)
2023 - 8-5
2024 - 5-7
2025 - 10-2 (trash schedule)

UM record

2016 - 10-3
2017 - 8-5
2018 - 10-3
2019 - 9-4
2020 - 2-4
2021 - 12-2 (cheating)
2022 - 13-1 (cheating)
2023 - 15-0 (cheating)
2024 - 8-5
2025 - 9-3 (trash schedule)
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I mean sign stealing isn't cheating much like it isn't in baseball it's how they went about getting them
 
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osuvictory1 said:
They literally hired the BYU DC. LOL!. Their setting themselves up for having to pay for their roster.

That dude isn't going to be able to simply walk into a school in Columbus/Cleveland, or a high school in GA or FL and just create a relationship that never existed.
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OTOH, BYU is a notorious cheap-shotting team throughout the years, so he'll fit in there.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Jay Hills whole career is either at Utah Weber State or BYU. It's a big step up in competition and a big change when it comes to the type of program and what you have to deal with at said type of program. I'm sure DFBIA sees this as a slam dunk but he wasn't upgrading jobs until Whittingham got hired late at scUM. He's been good at BYU but moving to scUM is a completely different monster, especially when they've been used to NFL caliber DCs, now they are saddled back with a pure college guy.
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He also apparently is Whittingham's white whale. He tried to hire him twice as DC in Utah apparently.
 
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