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I don’t want this come across the wrong way at all, but I’m really curious to see how an openly devout Mormon, recruits nationally to a national powerhouse program. It’s one thing when you’re the Head Coach of Utah or BYU, and you have a pipeline of Mormon kids in that geographical area to pull from.

Whatever your opinion on religion, many coaches/programs build their culture and identity around Christianity….the Buckeyes being one of them….it really connects with a lot of recruits parents as well.

I’m not a very religious person so again, I’m not knocking the Mormon faith or Whittingham…..I just wonder when he’s sitting at a kitchen table trying to pull a kid to Michigan, and you’ve got Ryan Day, Dan Lanning, Kirby Smart all pitching “their culture” and it resonates a lot more because the Mormon faith is a bit foreign to a large portion of the United States. Just something to think about…

Ultimately, I really think he’s just being paid to get them through the next 3-4 years with as little off the field damage as possible so I don’t think Michigan really cares that much about national recruiting at moment anyways…
 
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billmac91 said:
I don’t want this come across the wrong way at all, but I’m really curious to see how an openly devout Mormon, recruits nationally to a national powerhouse program. It’s one thing when you’re the Head Coach of Utah or BYU, and you have a pipeline of Mormon kids in that geographical area to pull from.

Whatever your opinion on religion, many coaches/programs build their culture and identity around Christianity….the Buckeyes being one of them….it really connects with a lot of recruits parents as well.

I’m not a very religious person so again, I’m not knocking the Mormon faith or Whittingham…..I just wonder when he’s sitting at a kitchen table trying to pull a kid to Michigan, and you’ve got Ryan Day, Dan Lanning, Kirby Smart all pitching “their culture” and it resonates a lot more because the Mormon faith is a bit foreign to a large portion of the United States. Just something to think about…

Ultimately, I really think he’s just being paid to get them through the next 3-4 years with as little off the field damage as possible so I don’t think Michigan really cares that much about national recruiting at moment anyways…
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It really doesn't come down to religion. It comes down to where you been and what relationships you have. Of course bags can help, but in the end a coach needs a solid base to grow from, and throwing money at elite recruits and portal transfers can fill a void, but they can't build that base. Whittingham's coaching career is centered in Utah and Idaho. From there, he may have grabbed some recruits from the western states, and leaned on the mormonism. That is his base.

What happens when he rolls into a high school in Columbus, someplace in GA, FL or VA and has no relationship there to roll from? It is that much harder. And even if you get a recruit, they may not be totally bought in, because they were literally bought.

The only saving grace for Whittingham is the current climate of paying for rosters, but that isn't a recipe for sustained success, which makes me think maybe Scum wants 2 good years from Whittingham to get a coach that can bring that potential sustained success. That is the current climate.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
It really doesn't come down to religion. It comes down to where you been and what relationships you have. Of course bags can help, but in the end a coach needs a solid base to grow from, and throwing money at elite recruits and portal transfers can fill a void, but they can't build that base. Whittingham's coaching career is centered in Utah and Idaho. From there, he may have grabbed some recruits from the western states, and leaned on the mormonism. That is his base.

What happens when he rolls into a high school in Columbus, someplace in GA, FL or VA and has no relationship there to roll from? It is that much harder. And even if you get a recruit, they may not be totally bought in, because they were literally bought.

The only saving grace for Whittingham is the current climate of paying for rosters, but that isn't a recipe for sustained success, which makes me think maybe Scum wants 2 good years from Whittingham to get a coach that can bring that potential sustained success. That is the current climate.
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I’d just say “the brotherhood” at OSU is real…..even kids who transfer usually do so under very amicable circumstances. “The brotherhood” also really sells recruits, as they see how strong the culture is within the program.

Georgia has a “weird” driving issue amongst its team, but when you look at their roster retention, it’s pretty special. Georgia continually has the fewest transfer portal players that get snaps amongst P4 teams.

Dan Lanning wears his religion on his sleeve….

Just a few examples….you’re right, some kids do just “chase bags” but those haven’t really been the kids the truly elite programs have chased. Texas A&M fits that mold, and this was as close as they’ve gotten which was an awful performance in playoffs.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
Whittingham is basically a great value version of Harbaugh but without the NFL pedigree. The scUM people acting like this is some landscape changing hire are comically delusional.

Guy has averaged 4 losses a season at Utah. I know I know "but the resources!!!". If any 8-4ish type coach of a smaller program was a garutneed success if you gave them the keys to a bigger program they'd all be highly coveted every year, which isn't the case.

He's a good coach but he's not moving the needle at a bigger program in a higher level conference.

Michigan is basically going to be Utah Midwest from the looks of how he's gonna form his staff. Which means 7-9 wins usually with maybe a 10 win season here and there if things fall right.
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"The resources" thing might be the funniest part. What fucking resources? Michigan isn't Clemson, let alone the Alabama they want to pretend they have. Every aspect of this is starting to feel next level delusional.

Whittingham is definitely the best they could've hoped for. On paper he's obviously a great coach. But when they start extrapolating 10-years-ago Whittingham plus 120-years-ago Michigan and start acting like Bama 2.0 is about to hit the B1G...... :lol:
 
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billmac91 said:
I don’t want this come across the wrong way at all, but I’m really curious to see how an openly devout Mormon, recruits nationally to a national powerhouse program. It’s one thing when you’re the Head Coach of Utah or BYU, and you have a pipeline of Mormon kids in that geographical area to pull from.

Whatever your opinion on religion, many coaches/programs build their culture and identity around Christianity….the Buckeyes being one of them….it really connects with a lot of recruits parents as well.

I’m not a very religious person so again, I’m not knocking the Mormon faith or Whittingham…..I just wonder when he’s sitting at a kitchen table trying to pull a kid to Michigan, and you’ve got Ryan Day, Dan Lanning, Kirby Smart all pitching “their culture” and it resonates a lot more because the Mormon faith is a bit foreign to a large portion of the United States. Just something to think about…

Ultimately, I really think he’s just being paid to get them through the next 3-4 years with as little off the field damage as possible so I don’t think Michigan really cares that much about national recruiting at moment anyways…
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I’m thinking he will be able to recruit D-Linemen with a lot of vowels in their names.
 
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osuvictory1 said:
I just don't understand how from an objective historical perspective of Whittingham's offense, he can come out thinking this is going to be a good situation for him.

I would be surprised if Whittingham totally uprooted his offensive philosophy for Underwood. Literally he used Cam Rising as a QB for 5 or 6 years. What exactly about that say's he is a QB guy?

Underwood was not all that good, and the hype didn't match what he looks like he may be. He seems to be very much Jalen Milroe. Strong arm, but inconsistent. Not much else is mind blowing special about him.

By all means I hope he sticks with Scum, because I don't see how it ends well.
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Whittingham coaches to win games for himself in college, not develop. It seems like his players need to develop on their own, at least at the QB position.
Honestly, Urban wasn't any different
 
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They literally hired the BYU DC. LOL!. Their setting themselves up for having to pay for their roster.

That dude isn't going to be able to simply walk into a school in Columbus/Cleveland, or a high school in GA or FL and just create a relationship that never existed.
 
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