*2024 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

[brodybuck21]

premierdrum 18 hours ago
I'm working on a few things, and only try to post when I receive good information.
Today's news is that UM's representatives have offered up a *lot* to put this to bed, especially over the past 10 days.
The NCAA isn't budging. The framework is the minimum.

- 2 year postseason ban,

- At least partial vacations of the 2021, 2022, and 2023 seasons (potentially targeting schools that were scouted by the impermissible scheme),

- Significant sanctions against current and former coaches,

- Scholarship reductions and recruiting restrictions,

- No longer recognizing the 2021-2023 B1G titles (the league could do this on their own but the NCAA can elect not to recognize them)

- Fines and increased probation.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Wouldn't be shocked if scUM leaks the NOA after a couple of letdowns and elimination from playoff contention, so they can try to further their victim narrative "how are we supposed to focus on football with this witch hunt looming over our heads"

Well, if it was in any ways good news for them, they would have already leaked it. At this point, I'd imagine everything is boiling down to two things: 1) save the 2023 season and title at all costs and a distant 2) offer up this year as a sacrifice to have a year at the end of the post-season ban dropped in exchange. They'll do whatever they feel serves those interests.

 

[JCOSU86]

None of the NCAA's corporate sponsors or their partners in the media are going to want to admit that a whole ass championship in a sport that they promote was completely compromised, even though them vacating 2021 & 2022 basically admits that anyway, i'd bet there are a lot of $$$ forces outside of scUM at play here not wanting the NCAA to strip the 2023 season as well. Is it wrong? fuck yes it is, but sadly it's how it is.

I don't think they think it's completely compromised. Just a rogue program cheating in ways not seen before. I think they make an example of them. They cost a lot of people a lot of money. Their displeasure will not be ignored.

 

[JCOSU86]

Oh, and fuck M*ch*gan

 

[1926Buckeyes]

premierdrum 18 hours ago
I'm working on a few things, and only try to post when I receive good information.
Today's news is that UM's representatives have offered up a *lot* to put this to bed, especially over the past 10 days.
The NCAA isn't budging. The framework is the minimum.

- 2 year postseason ban,

- At least partial vacations of the 2021, 2022, and 2023 seasons (potentially targeting schools that were scouted by the impermissible scheme),

- Significant sanctions against current and former coaches,

- Scholarship reductions and recruiting restrictions,

- No longer recognizing the 2021-2023 B1G titles (the league could do this on their own but the NCAA can elect not to recognize them)

- Fines and increased probation.

If any parts of the '21-'23 seasons remain unvacated, it'll be a joke. Vacating '21-'23, years-long suspensions (if not lifetime bans) for any coaches/team members involved, and a 2 year post-season ban is the bar, and that's putting it in hell. They should be begging for that being the minimum penalties.

I should be happy they've even gotten to this point, but the shit they did is unprecedented. Punishments should be going up every month this drags on. The depth of cheating, full knowledge in year 3 by a holier-than-thou administration, and total contempt and disrespect for everyone after getting caught hasn't happened anywhere else.

 

[shetuck]

premierdrum 18 hours ago
I'm working on a few things, and only try to post when I receive good information.
Today's news is that UM's representatives have offered up a *lot* to put this to bed, especially over the past 10 days.
The NCAA isn't budging. The framework is the minimum.

- 2 year postseason ban,

- At least partial vacations of the 2021, 2022, and 2023 seasons (potentially targeting schools that were scouted by the impermissible scheme),

- Significant sanctions against current and former coaches,

- Scholarship reductions and recruiting restrictions,

- No longer recognizing the 2021-2023 B1G titles (the league could do this on their own but the NCAA can elect not to recognize them)

- Fines and increased probation.

might as well chuck in “heisman trophy for cj stroud” and i guess for keith byars as well, since we’re opening the vault of universal wrongs.

oh… and golden unremovable shoelaces for all osu running backs in perpetuity!

there!

did i miss anything?

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Oh, and fuck M*ch*gan

No, it's...

 

[NFBuck]

premierdrum 18 hours ago
I'm working on a few things, and only try to post when I receive good information.
Today's news is that UM's representatives have offered up a *lot* to put this to bed, especially over the past 10 days.
The NCAA isn't budging. The framework is the minimum.

- 2 year postseason ban,

- At least partial vacations of the 2021, 2022, and 2023 seasons (potentially targeting schools that were scouted by the impermissible scheme),

- Significant sanctions against current and former coaches,

- Scholarship reductions and recruiting restrictions,

- No longer recognizing the 2021-2023 B1G titles (the league could do this on their own but the NCAA can elect not to recognize them)

- Fines and increased probation.

* Needs to be 3 year ban. What's this 2 horse shit? They get a pass for '23 because they got caught red handed midseason?

* I see no mention of their fugazi NC*.

 

[Captain Buckeye]

premierdrum 18 hours ago
I'm working on a few things, and only try to post when I receive good information.
Today's news is that UM's representatives have offered up a *lot* to put this to bed, especially over the past 10 days.
The NCAA isn't budging. The framework is the minimum.

- 2 year postseason ban,

- At least partial vacations of the 2021, 2022, and 2023 seasons (potentially targeting schools that were scouted by the impermissible scheme),

- Significant sanctions against current and former coaches,

- Scholarship reductions and recruiting restrictions,

- No longer recognizing the 2021-2023 B1G titles (the league could do this on their own but the NCAA can elect not to recognize them)

- Fines and increased probation.

What about the natty?

 

[BUCKYLE]

premierdrum 18 hours ago
I'm working on a few things, and only try to post when I receive good information.
Today's news is that UM's representatives have offered up a *lot* to put this to bed, especially over the past 10 days.
The NCAA isn't budging. The framework is the minimum.

- 2 year postseason ban,

- At least partial vacations of the 2021, 2022, and 2023 seasons (potentially targeting schools that were scouted by the impermissible scheme),

- Significant sanctions against current and former coaches,

- Scholarship reductions and recruiting restrictions,

- No longer recognizing the 2021-2023 B1G titles (the league could do this on their own but the NCAA can elect not to recognize them)

- Fines and increased probation.

Did anyone ask why he or his source is not mentioning the NC all of a sudden

 

[brodybuck21]

Did anyone ask why he or his source is not mentioning the NC all of a sudden

here are the follow up posts mentioning that piece...

BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE 5 hours ago
And *National Title*

BuckeyeInOrlando 5 hours ago
Yes... I may have accidentally deleted that when formatting. Thank You!
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/vote...emhritH3ge0qSKuTZIDAz0LL8ZYsu_mEA5nLvk0I/nojs
Maestro 5 hours ago
I don't think that has been included in the framework from the NCAA that PD has reported as a "minimum framework". This could be because of fact that the NCAA doesn't have direct CFP "ruling powers", but they expect that the CFP will fall in line when the other punishments are levied.
vacuuming sucks
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JacksonOhio5 3 hours ago
I'm pretty sure that PD's minimum framework HAS included that the NCAA would not recognize the Big Ten Championships nor the CFP Championship. However, it would be up to the Big Ten and CFP to officially "strip" them of those titles. As you said, both entities would likely just fall in line with the NCAA's wishes. At that point, the NCAA's record book would be in alignment with the Big Ten and CFP official records.
Go Bucks!
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Cbuswriter 3 hours ago
This is how I remember it as well. The national title would not be recognized.
If you think about it: if the B1G titles are revoked, then the national title also has to be revoked. They would not have been in the playoff without that conference championship.

 

[brodybuck21]

premierdrum 43 minutes ago
The conference is not considered a "direct party of interest" for NOA delivery.
UM does have some reporting obligations to the B1G, but I don't know exactly what those are and don't want to lead anyone down the wrong path.
A datapoint I think many overlook from last fall is that the NCAA recognized the severity of what was going on and took it to the B1G, who were the only ones who could immediately act. I know there's frustration with what Petitti and the conference did and didn't do, but that was an impossible spot for them.
But - remember this - 11 months ago the NCAA thought this scheme was so monumental that they took the unprecedented step of going to the conference to inform them. All based on an investigation that *they had not yet started.*
This case has been unprecedented from the start, and is going to end very, very poorly for our neighbors to the north.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

The above is my understanding of the Fugazi Title. And even if it's both stripped by the CFP and not recognized by the NCAA, you know those motherless fucks will still claim it, sell the t-shirts and have reunions/celebrations for it. That's a 100% given if Ono survives, but even with a new President, I think the culture up there is so warped that they'll be no different than under Ono.

 

[NFBuck]

The above is my understanding of the Fugazi Title. And even if it's both stripped by the CFP and not recognized by the NCAA, you know those motherless fucks will still claim it, sell the t-shirts and have reunions/celebrations for it. That's a 100% given if Ono survives, but even with a new President, I think the culture up there is so warped that they'll be no different than under Ono.

Let them. Everybody knows it's fake, including them. They have 1/2 a title since 1948.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Let them. Everybody knows it's fake, including them. They have 1/2 a title since 1948.

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Strip them of it and make sure ALL the evidence against them gets out into the press. Then, the more they claim it and celebrate it, the more they look like the arrogant, self-delusional fools they are. You'll never penetrate their cult-like thinking but just let the rest of the country know what we and Sparty have known for a very long time.