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2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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No vacated losses. Forfeit every game 2021-2023.

Here is what I want. I want an underdog tOSU to take the field and kick their asses. I want to see the ghost of Jack Tatum on that field. I want to see real pain delivered by Silver Bullets in Ann Arbor. I want to see their entire starting backfield unable to finish the game. I want to see their soft linemen give up. I want to see the offense put 600+ yards on them. And I want a score line that shows an unparalleled beat down. I want to see their fans in tears and the look of shame on their faces. Then, I want to see Ryan Day refuse to shake Harbaugh's hand and begin his postgame presser with the words, "Guess they're a bit soft when they can't read your signs."
 
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Calling BS on the immunity thing. Immunity from what??

I think there is some fantastical view of what the NCAA is and can do.
Yep. I think if they are offering "immunity" it's not from prosecution - they don't have any such authority. Which means it's more like "immunity " from ncaa violations which might affect playing time, or the like.
 
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Jim Harbaugh Says Michigan Should Be ‘America’s Team’ Amid Sign-Stealing Scandal​

“It’s gotta be America’s team. It’s gotta be America’s team,” Harbaugh said of the Wolverines. “America loves a team that beats the odds, beats the adversity, overcomes what the naysayers, critics, so-called experts think. That’s my favorite kind of team.”

Entire article: https://www.si.com/college/2023/11/...d-be-americas-team-amid-sign-stealing-scandal

Yeah right, America loves cheating, lying........:lol:

JIM HARBAUGH PLANS TO ATTEND MICHIGAN-BIG TEN HEARING ON FRIDAY, CALLS THE WOLVERINES “AMERICA'S TEAM”​

On Monday, Harbaugh said he didn’t know if he would be called to speak in front of the judge. Still, he plans to attend the hearing, where Michigan will argue that Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti lacked the authority to suspend Harbaugh under the league's Sportsmanship Policy.

Just wonderin': If he speaks to the judge Friday, will he be "under oath"? If so, perjury would be a "whole new ballgame"...... :lol:
The only way he can speak to the judge is as a witness and yes, under oath. All the evidentiary rules/rules of civil procedure apply to a TRO. Anything he would say not under oath would carry no weight. I've done around 50 TRO hearings and judges will typically tell non-attorneys to shut the hell up if they are not on the stand. Their legal team is between a rock and a hard place here...on one hand, you don't want Harbaugh to testify for a variety of reasons (one being the chance of perjury as you mentioned). On the other hand, they really are in an uphill battle from an evidence standpoint and carry the very high burden of proving their case for a TRO, which would seem to be very difficult without Harbaugh's testimony. He likely sits at the table with the legal team for appearances and says nothing.

I wish this hearing would be televised, I would wake up early to make popcorn and watch it.

And this is what scUM wants. It is the reason behind the "let due process play out". It has nothing to do with a new found sense of patience or proper justice. It's the team and their fans so desperately wanting a shot at a natty. Meaning, God forbid it happens, even with it vacated you'll still get the "Well, we all still saw it happen on the field and that is what counts".

The record books will show one thing, but the fans, ALL of us, will know and under it as something else.

The only way to truly punish is prevention. You can't have them getting to the conference title game or the playoffs. Given how the NCAA moves at the speed of glacier, it's really up to the Buckeyes to halt this madness in two weeks.
100% this. It's like that Heisman trophy that the NCAA took back from Reggie Bush. My sincere hope is we throttle them in AA to remove all doubt, then all the wins get vacated after The Game and they are banned from any bowl game (in addition to other punishments such as loss of scholarships and Harbaugh getting shown the door). Double serving of justice in that scenario.
 
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