2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

[ORD_Buckeye]

Won't listen. Still an apologist?

 

[dragurd]

No, he didn't say that the NCAA is investigating Ohio State. The "Michigan Man" just said "reporters? are sniffing....."

He tried to speak the Mo Clarret reporters descending on campus into being

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

There's also just providing the threat itself, and then saying you'll offer 'immunity'. Most threats the NCAA can't make good on, but most of these players probably won't know that in the moment. You may end up getting a few to start talking out of panic alone.

They'll know. tsun will absolutely lawyer them up.

 

[RB07OSU]

Regarding the TRO …

If there’s irreparable harm to tCun by Harbaugh not being there, that would be because he’s so valuable to the team during the game because he’s aware of everything that’s going on during a game, right?

Like why his coordinators were standing right next to Connor Stalions and calling plays and defensive formations right after Stalions saw the signs come from the other side of the field, and why the coordinators would be relying on Stalions before making their calls.

There's that and the immediate and irreparable harm standard is quite difficult to meet in reality. He's already sat out one game and they beat #10 PSU, what immediate harm is there even throwing aside that the evidence is not on their side? I could invent some arguments for the other side, but they would be pretty stretched.

I think a lot of arguments that could be made to try to win the TRO could be problematic to their case moving forward.

I'm not a lawyer; but I tend to agree. I just can't see Harbaugh's lawyer allowing him to testify under oath (earlier statement ↓ form Harbaugh's lawyer).



I would expect Harbaugh (under the advice of council) to decline any opportunity to testify under oath.

I would absolutely advise against it in the unfortunate chance I would have to represent Harbaugh. He'll keep barking to the media with inadmissible statements not subject to the penalty of perjury for now. That said, his testimony could be subpoenaed eventually, though it won't likely happen at the TRO.

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

The irony behind 'immediate and irreparable harm'.. that's what cheating does Hairball... that's what YOU did to the scUM program.. irreparable..

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Sor far, I see two solid paths forward to some kind of criminal indictment that would bring subpoena power and compelled testimony under oath into play and one possible one that would be a game changer.

In play are Weiss' laptop and Stalions LLC with/without Corum. Potential game changer is any evidence of gambling on tsun to cover the spread by coaches and/or players.

 

[Jake]

I appreciate the resident attorneys taking the time to talk about how TRO hearings work.

I rarely had to go to court, thankfully, during my career and I never went to law school.

 

[LightningRod]

Regarding the TRO …

If there’s irreparable harm to tCun by Harbaugh not being there, that would be because he’s so valuable to the team during the game because he’s aware of everything that’s going on during a game, right?

Like why his coordinators were standing right next to Connor Stalions and calling plays and defensive formations right after Stalions saw the signs come from the other side of the field, and why the coordinators would be relying on Stalions before making their calls.

He's being paid during his suspension so there is no immediate financial loss. The president of the university and board of regents have done nothing but praise and back him from the start, so there is no stigma that attaches from his own institution. I believe the president stated his raise was still in the works, so there is no future loss. He is permitted to coach throughout the week and as part of that prepare the game plan. Hard to see where the great and immediate harm originates.

 

[cincibuck]

Thought: the NCAA has no authority over the CFP. That’s an entity unto itself. Ergo they could refuse or invite Michigan regardless of what the Big Ten or the NCAA wants.

 

[RB07OSU]

He's being paid during his suspension so there is no immediate financial loss. The president of the university and board of regents have done nothing but praise and back him from the start, so there is no stigma that attaches from his own institution. I believe the president stated his raise was still in the works, so there is no future loss. He is permitted to coach throughout the week and as part of that prepare the game plan. Hard to see where the great and immediate loss originates.

Not to give them any credence, but I would imagine the argument would be that a loss preventing them from getting to the CFB would be irreparable and immediate. I would bet the house on that argument, and actually compelling on the surface because that is an intangible loss in one sense. If a TRO ever starts gravitating towards financial loss, the one seeking the TRO is getting concerned.

But I don't see that argument going that far because of the evidence that has already been gathered. They can scream about the immediate and irreparable harm of the suspension...due to THEIR actions. Good luck with that unless they have some ace up the sleeve nobody knows about. They're the movant, they have the high burden, and don't seem to have any credible evidence to support their motion. Even if this judge is a huge ttun homer, I still don't see them prevailing on the TRO...a judge is not going to risk their career on something like this.

 

[Thump]

 

[Jake]

Thought: the NCAA has no authority over the CFP. That’s an entity unto itself. Ergo they could refuse or invite Michigan regardless of what the Big Ten or the NCAA wants.

So far, their position has been they are not considering any of the scandal stuff in their deliberations. Of course, that could change.

 

[Captain Buckeye]

I mean he’s right. The fact there’s a mention of that and then Weiss’ computer? They bet on freaking games.

It’s a shame if they don’t release that information before the season is over.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

I mean he’s right. The fact there’s a mention of that and then Weiss’ computer? They bet on freaking games.

It’s a shame if they don’t release that information before the season is over.

"Third party firm"

 

[LordJeffBuck]

https://www.usintegrity.com/news/the-big-ten-signs-comprehensive-partnership-with-us-integrity

LAS VEGAS, NV (August 25th, 2023) – Today U.S. Integrity (“USI”) announced a comprehensive partnership with The Big Ten Conference, as they aim to protect the integrity of their conference and its student-athletes, coaches, and staff.

USI will provide integrity monitoring, educational, and social media monitoring services to The Big Ten Conference, via its proprietary dashboard. USI conducts analysis across dozens of data sets to proactively identify irregular contest-level, officiating & wagering patterns.

U.S. Integrity is a leading technology-driven sports wagering monitoring company, providing the highest level of protection against betting-related fraud and corruption. USI's mission is to grow the legal, regulated sports betting market by providing solutions that ensure sports betting integrity in every play, every game, every sport. USI partners with a number of the largest professional sports leagues and collegiate conferences in the U.S., as well as licensed sports-betting operators and regulators. USI is based in Las Vegas and New York.

Question: Was U.S. Integrity hired because the Big Ten knew that scUM was cheating, or did U.S. Integrity's routine monitoring catch scUM cheating?