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2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

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dragurd said:
I'd love for someone to ask him then why was stallions on the sidelines with a sign sheet in the first half of games talking to you and the co-ordinators... And watch his 1000 yard stare as he tries to think up some dumb excuse
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I'd guess they are micromanaging which reporters have access to him. Nobody is going to ask him hard questions or challenge his answers in follow ups..
 
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sflbuck said:
That poster claims he is NOT that Oracle, but who knows.

If you read all of his post he does seem to be an actual journalist, which is as far away from Ken Stickney as you can get. But again who knows.
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I hate guys that reply to their own posts, but I remembered something that confirms The Oracle is NOT Ken Stickney aka NevedaBuck, so here we are.

In a follow up post in the Eleven Warriors thread, The Oracle praises the Buckeye Huddle guys (Orr,Gerdeman,Gilver and Noon) as responsible journalists and links a video below from last Friday. The short video details Orr and Gerdeman's clear expectation that another shoe will drop on this scandal and why it might be taking longer than we would hope for. It's good context for the topic of this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxQoHA8GpbpGRiwYO_KggoHUzlm6PQxmCC

I don't want to go into great detail, but in short the BH guys were Barton and Stickney's original partners in Buckeye Scoop, but staged a mutiny when Stickney paid an OSU player for inside information. The BH guys lost and Barton and Stickney kicked them out of Buckeye Scoop. Stickney would NEVER praise the BH guys. The Oracle of Eleven Warriors is NOT Ken Stickney.

Sorry for the minor thread hijack.
 
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BB73 said:
I’d say the 1950/51 CCNY and Kentucky (among others) college basketball point shaving scandal was worse.
At least 32 players were arrested, All-Americans were suspended, and Kentucky was barred for an entire season.

1951 scandals threaten college hoops

In 1950, CCNY accomplished one of the greatest feats in basketball history, winning the NIT and the NCAA tournaments--one year later there was devastation.
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Agreed, IF the tCun scandal is strictly about sign stealing.

If, as I strongly suspect, person(s) inside the tCun program with knowledge of the sign stealing used that information to bet on tCun to cover, then you've got a cheating scandal combined with a point fixing scandal, which would be the worst sports scandal ever.

Many of you are wondering why the Big Ten seems to be moving slowly here. The typical responses – due process, gathering evidence, tCun stonewalling, bureaucratic inefficiency – all play a part. However, keep in mind that there is at least one ongoing criminal investigation concerning tCun. If one (or more) of those investigations involves the actions of the football team in general (say point fixing or stealing data from an opponent's cloud server) as opposed to the actions of a former staff member in particular (say CSAM or stealing personal electronic data from an individual's laptop), then the Big Ten (and the NCAA and the University of Michigan) will be reluctant (if not outright prohibited) to take any action that could jeopardize said criminal investigation(s).

DISCLAIMER: The above scenario is NOT based on actual knowledge.
 
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Captain Buckeye said:


Man I don’t know… all the sudden I have a feeling they’re going to get off on a technicality
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This guy did this over at Bucknuts and admitted he had no expertise except that he was "human and he could read" (actual quote). Lots of people over there took this apart as well. (including me)

I don't want to underestimate the NCAA's ability to screw this up, but if you were around any OSU website (except Buckeye Planet) for Tatgate, there were many OSU bloggers that parsed the NCAA rule book and came up with reasons why Tressel did not break any rules. How did that work out? It didn't happen at Buckeye Planet because ORD knocked anyone who tried into next week.

Also you need to ask yourself why, in the weeks since this scandal has come to light, not a single news source except fanboy websites have made this amazing discovery that technically, no violation occurred. That seems like a pretty big oversight for large media organizations with access to resources including experts on NCAA rules.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
I didn't read that particularly carefully, but nothing I read in that post suggests to me the OP knows how to construe the relevant language legally.
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Captain Buckeye said:


Man I don’t know… all the sudden I have a feeling they’re going to get off on a technicality
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Yeah after reading through the thread there’s other lawyers saying this is silly (the guy who posted this is not a lawyer but claims his wife is lol).

The main issue people are saying with this poster who seemed fairly competent is there’s normally implied law as well which prevents these kinds of loopholes. So that would cover the loophole of there needing to be exact language that a third party can’t just do all of this. Which I agree with now that I think of it. Because if scouting is against the rules then why would it be okay for someone to do it for them.
 
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