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It's not just a Herbie-ism. You can't adequately cover if you don't know what's going on and not knowing where the ball is or even making the attempt to find it, in addition to making it impossible for you to attempt to deflect or intercept the ball, leaves you at a higher risk for an interference call even if your coverage was good up to that point. For all we've heard about being an attacking defense, and most of it has exceeded my expectations, this point seems to be lacking with at least some of the corners. I think they can and will focus on it during the bye and against Iowa, but if it isn't sorted toward the end of the season, it will hurt us.
 
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It's not just a Herbie-ism. You can't adequately cover if you don't know what's going on and not knowing where the ball is or even making the attempt to find it, in addition to making it impossible for you to attempt to deflect or intercept the ball, leaves you at a higher risk for an interference call even if your coverage was good up to that point. For all we've heard about being an attacking defense, and most of it has exceeded my expectations, this point seems to be lacking with at least some of the corners. I think they can and will focus on it during the bye and against Iowa, but if it isn't sorted toward the end of the season, it will hurt us.
Only team in our league that can hurt us is ttun imo.

Only reason for that is they have a talented enough OL to make it difficult getting to the QB and effectively JJ. Maybe Maryland also but by the time we play them they'll have another 2 losses and Maryland doesn't usually play us well (minus that 2018 team with a horrendous defense).

We also have to remember that teams typically need to throw the ball because our offense scores so frequently. So right now teams are literally not even attempting to run the ball and have tried their luck with jump balls.

So far so good for them overall but that's hardly a recipe for success and that includes Alabama and Georgia who both lack the skill out wide to expose that.

Reed is probably the best WR we will play all year if we look back on the Sparty game. The other match ups should be pretty favorable.
 
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Only team in our league that can hurt us is ttun imo.
Only reason for that is they have a talented enough OL to make it difficult getting to the QB and effectively JJ. Maybe Maryland also but by the time we play them they'll have another 2 losses and Maryland doesn't usually play us well (minus that 2018 team with a horrendous defense).
We also have to remember that teams typically need to throw the ball because our offense scores so frequently. So right now teams are literally not even attempting to run the ball and have tried their luck with jump balls.
So far so good for them overall but that's hardly a recipe for success and that includes Alabama and Georgia who both lack the skill out wide to expose that.
Reed is probably the best WR we will play all year if we look back on the Sparty game. The other match ups should be pretty favorable.

No argument with any of the above. I'm not super-concerned with the B1G; especially as we'd win pretty much any conference shoot-out. I'm more concerned about the Playoff, but now that I think about it, I don't think uga is a passing threat with Stetson Bennett back there and Young doesn't particularly scare me either.
 
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No argument with any of the above. I'm not super-concerned with the B1G; especially as we'd win pretty much any conference shoot-out. I'm more concerned about the Playoff, but now that I think about it, I don't think uga is a passing threat with Stetson Bennett back there and Young doesn't particularly scare me either.
Young concerns me for his mobility and also Alabama has the defense to limit our offense (at least to what we are used to).

Not really sure who would be a bad matchup for us?

You'd think it has to be a great running team who's lethal at play action but who's really out there? I can't think of an offense that really can hurt this osu defense. Maybe USC but Jim Knowles has proven he can limit Rileys offenses with less. Maybe Tennessee but they aren't knocking off Alabama twice and UGA. Maybe TCU with their speed but I highly doubt that.

IMO TTUN probably provides the biggest challenge. Good OL, great backs, mobile QB who's accurate and a so so stable of WRs.

I've got to say... this is the year to win it all for Ryan if there's ever a great year to do it. This is probably the best offense we've ever had at OSU and clearly the defense is strong too. Hoping the guys can get it done.
 
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Young concerns me for his mobility and also Alabama has the defense to limit our offense (at least to what we are used to).

Not really sure who would be a bad matchup for us?

You'd think it has to be a great running team who's lethal at play action but who's really out there? I can't think of an offense that really can hurt this osu defense. Maybe USC but Jim Knowles has proven he can limit Rileys offenses with less. Maybe Tennessee but they aren't knocking off Alabama twice and UGA. Maybe TCU with their speed but I highly doubt that.

IMO TTUN probably provides the biggest challenge. Good OL, great backs, mobile QB who's accurate and a so so stable of WRs.

I've got to say... this is the year to win it all for Ryan if there's ever a great year to do it. This is probably the best offense we've ever had at OSU and clearly the defense is strong too. Hoping the guys can get it done.
USC with a better defense AKA we're own worst matchup if we could somehow play ourselves I think.
 
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USC with a better defense AKA we're own worst matchup if we could somehow play ourselves I think.
USC doesn't have the defense nor the overall skill. They have Addison but I'm not sure Addison us #4 on our depth chart and that's pretty unbiased.

Over the past few years the team with the exceptional side of the ball has won the title.

2019- LSU with their offense
2020- Alabama with their offense
2021- Georgia with their defense

If you really think about it the only side of the ball that's clearly the #1 offense/defense is our offense. This offense might be better than the LSU 2019 team if we really break it down. There's not another offense like this one and on defense there's a few great defenses but nothing like UGA last year.
 
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USC doesn't have the defense nor the overall skill. They have Addison but I'm not sure Addison us #4 on our depth chart and that's pretty unbiased.

Over the past few years the team with the exceptional side of the ball has won the title.

2019- LSU with their offense
2020- Alabama with their offense
2021- Georgia with their defense

If you really think about it the only side of the ball that's clearly the #1 offense/defense is our offense. This offense might be better than the LSU 2019 team if we really break it down. There's not another offense like this one and on defense there's a few great defenses but nothing like UGA last year.

And to the point in bold, most of the top defenses don't have much offense. Definitely the year for Day to seize a title if there ever was one. Just posted in the offense thread, but our defense is #16 overall in the nation. That is a huge improvement from last year even considering we have not faced a top offense...even throwing aside our defensive rating, we are flying to the ball and look like a completely new defense, our talent is being freed up to go make plays. Most points have come against us in garbage time (not all, but most) or on random plays where we were mostly in the right position and someone just made a play on the opposing offense.

BUT...I will be fair and do the same thing I did in the defensive thread to give context to our defensive performance by noting the opposing offenses overall ranks that we have played: Notre Dame (#95, yikes), Arkansas State (#51), Toledo (#29 and I think the best offense we've faced by a lot), Wisconsin (#56, surprised they are that high), Rutgers (#104, yikes again) and Michigan State (#93, yikes again again). In other words, we have played nothing but garbage offenses so far. Coming up, there will be few challenges for our defense unfortunately. We have: Iowa (#127, almost dead last), Penn State (#37, respectable), Northwestern (#122, yikes), Indiana (#98), Maryland (#40, respectable) and *ichigan (#7, easily the toughest challenge). So we have some above average offenses in PSU and Maryland, then what appears to be easily the toughest challenge with *ichigan to end the season. Hate to say it, but *ichigan is going to be a hell of a challenge for the defense and I hope we are up for it.

Good news is we have some gaps in the schedule for the defense to keep improving and gelling (and hopefully Burke has a "come to Jesus" moment and finds his game again). Iowa we should absolutely stifle, might be the worst offense I have ever watched in CFB. Then PSU will be a big test on the road, but their strength is more in the run game and I am confident we can stop that. Then NW and Indiana we should shut down before a test that is probably bigger than most think in Maryland on the road right before The Game, so it could be a trap game and I have watched Maryland enough to know their offense is seriously good and they will test our CB's if we don't improve quickly there. Then *ichigan has a lot of ways to hurt you...McCarthy is a huge improvement at QB (though he has erratic moments we can capitalize on), Corum is seriously a stud and Eichenberg better be in his face all game, and they have a great TE (Schoonmaker) and their WRs are pretty solid (Bell, Wilson and Henning are good, but there are others with capability).

My hope is our starting CB play improves dramatically and we should be able to get the job done with our explosive offense. But I really think Burke and Brown have to just step up and play the ball better in air...they are in position, they just don't get their heads around to play the ball. I do not think JK, Hancock, J Brown or Turner are ready to face the better WRs that we are going to run into the rest of the season quite yet, or at least wouldn't be an improvement over Burke and Brown. Point is, I don't think we can bench Burke or Brown if they are healthy, best bet is to coach them up best we can and try to get it corrected. Namely, the back shoulder throw needs to be defended much better. MSU torched us with that because they knew their WRs wouldn't win deep unless it was a back shoulder throw...every time we were in position and the failure to adjust to that was baffling...of course they are going to do that because they don't have the athletes to actually beat us deep. I hope the CB play gets better, but each week I am losing a little bit more confidence that it will.
 
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The outcomes of the nine games of the past three years of CFP play have been explained primarily by pass offense versus pass defense. Run offense and run defense have been relatively meaningless in those games. So while Alabama's 2020 pass offense was indeed better than anyone's this year, the issue is whether the difference in pass defense between OSU and the competition will result in advantage in the passing game for the opposition in the CFP.

Right now Alabama's pass defense is looking quite a bit better than OSU's. If OSU faces Alabama in the CFP and Alabama contains OSU's passing game like Notre Dame did, OSU may have difficulty outscoring them because their pass defense is too inadequate to contain Alabama's passing game.

Based on what? Statistically wise Ohio State allows less passing yards per game than Bama.

Texas A&Ms crappy QB was able to move the ball on them and if Quinn Ewers didnt get hurt that game was a L for Bama, he was carving them up.
 
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And to the point in bold, most of the top defenses don't have much offense. Definitely the year for Day to seize a title if there ever was one. Just posted in the offense thread, but our defense is #16 overall in the nation. That is a huge improvement from last year even considering we have not faced a top offense...even throwing aside our defensive rating, we are flying to the ball and look like a completely new defense, our talent is being freed up to go make plays. Most points have come against us in garbage time (not all, but most) or on random plays where we were mostly in the right position and someone just made a play on the opposing offense.

BUT...I will be fair and do the same thing I did in the defensive thread to give context to our defensive performance by noting the opposing offenses overall ranks that we have played: Notre Dame (#95, yikes), Arkansas State (#51), Toledo (#29 and I think the best offense we've faced by a lot), Wisconsin (#56, surprised they are that high), Rutgers (#104, yikes again) and Michigan State (#93, yikes again again). In other words, we have played nothing but garbage offenses so far. Coming up, there will be few challenges for our defense unfortunately. We have: Iowa (#127, almost dead last), Penn State (#37, respectable), Northwestern (#122, yikes), Indiana (#98), Maryland (#40, respectable) and *ichigan (#7, easily the toughest challenge). So we have some above average offenses in PSU and Maryland, then what appears to be easily the toughest challenge with *ichigan to end the season. Hate to say it, but *ichigan is going to be a hell of a challenge for the defense and I hope we are up for it.

Good news is we have some gaps in the schedule for the defense to keep improving and gelling (and hopefully Burke has a "come to Jesus" moment and finds his game again). Iowa we should absolutely stifle, might be the worst offense I have ever watched in CFB. Then PSU will be a big test on the road, but their strength is more in the run game and I am confident we can stop that. Then NW and Indiana we should shut down before a test that is probably bigger than most think in Maryland on the road right before The Game, so it could be a trap game and I have watched Maryland enough to know their offense is seriously good and they will test our CB's if we don't improve quickly there. Then *ichigan has a lot of ways to hurt you...McCarthy is a huge improvement at QB (though he has erratic moments we can capitalize on), Corum is seriously a stud and Eichenberg better be in his face all game, and they have a great TE (Schoonmaker) and their WRs are pretty solid (Bell, Wilson and Henning are good, but there are others with capability).

My hope is our starting CB play improves dramatically and we should be able to get the job done with our explosive offense. But I really think Burke and Brown have to just step up and play the ball better in air...they are in position, they just don't get their heads around to play the ball. I do not think JK, Hancock, J Brown or Turner are ready to face the better WRs that we are going to run into the rest of the season quite yet, or at least wouldn't be an improvement over Burke and Brown. Point is, I don't think we can bench Burke or Brown if they are healthy, best bet is to coach them up best we can and try to get it corrected. Namely, the back shoulder throw needs to be defended much better. MSU torched us with that because they knew their WRs wouldn't win deep unless it was a back shoulder throw...every time we were in position and the failure to adjust to that was baffling...of course they are going to do that because they don't have the athletes to actually beat us deep. I hope the CB play gets better, but each week I am losing a little bit more confidence that it will.

Love your breakdown, and its all spot on. Though, the way that OSU played and was able to lock down ND, which is a junior version of scUM, IMO. Except McCarthy is much better than Buchner, and scUM has a few more serviceable WRs. The worry will continue to be our CBs until something changes. But if the front 7 can continue to be disruptive, then that can mask a lot of the CB deficiencies.

And I broke down the 2 main competitors to OSU for the NC: Alabama and UGA, and the offensive rankings of their competition. First with Bama: Utah State(#114), Texas(#20), Louisiana Monroe(#113), Vanderbilt(#44), Arkansas(#73), aTm(#109). That's a comparable schedule to OSU, and for them being a juggernaut, they struggled with Texas. And Vanderbilt being at #44 is a joke, because playing Hawaii and Elon isn't exactly playing top competition. And then having 400yds in a loss to Ole Miss also pads their stats, but Vanderbilt is the equivalent of Maryland on our schedule. A team who can put up some stats, but can't equate to many wins. And then there's UGA: Oregon(#9), Samford(#N/A as they're a G5 school:rofl:), South Carolina(#42), Kent St(#83), Missouri(#97), Auburn (#112). The fact that they even scheduled a freaking FCS school is just disgusting for any team that considers themselves elite or in the hunt for an NC or even conference title. They almost lost to Kent State and Mizzou, 2 teams who will be lucky to get into the Duke's Mayo or Gasparilla Bowl.

I think all 3 teams have their own flaws, and are pretty close on paper. But I think OSU has a much more balanced offense, and more weapons than the other 2. OSU just reminds me so much of the LSU 2019 team, that blew the doors off of most of the country with amazing firepower. I tried to tell my friends of other teams how good the OSU offense would be this year, and would even be better than the 2021 version due to better OL play, and more overall weapons, rather than 3 WRs and 2 RBs to go along with Stroud. 2022 OSU has Stroud and the 2 RBs(of course), but also has Egbuka, MHjr, Fleming, Jayden Ballard and Xavier Johnson at WR(and to think we haven't even been able to utilize JSN for even a full half of football:yow2:), and Stover and Scott at TE. I have yet to see who the dominant WRs are for UGA and Bama. I actually don't even know what both of those teams do well/great on offense, its more that their defense keeps them in games and the offense makes enough plays to win. But Gibbs is the entire offense for Bama and Bowers is mainly was UGA has. It's going to be interesting to follow the rest of the season, because I could see both having regular season losses, neither seems to be their dominant selves of years past. Day and Knowles just need to keep the team focused, and not lose focus like past talent-laden OSU teams.
 
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And to the point in bold, most of the top defenses don't have much offense. Definitely the year for Day to seize a title if there ever was one. Just posted in the offense thread, but our defense is #16 overall in the nation. That is a huge improvement from last year even considering we have not faced a top offense...even throwing aside our defensive rating, we are flying to the ball and look like a completely new defense, our talent is being freed up to go make plays. Most points have come against us in garbage time (not all, but most) or on random plays where we were mostly in the right position and someone just made a play on the opposing offense.

BUT...I will be fair and do the same thing I did in the defensive thread to give context to our defensive performance by noting the opposing offenses overall ranks that we have played: Notre Dame (#95, yikes), Arkansas State (#51), Toledo (#29 and I think the best offense we've faced by a lot), Wisconsin (#56, surprised they are that high), Rutgers (#104, yikes again) and Michigan State (#93, yikes again again). In other words, we have played nothing but garbage offenses so far. Coming up, there will be few challenges for our defense unfortunately. We have: Iowa (#127, almost dead last), Penn State (#37, respectable), Northwestern (#122, yikes), Indiana (#98), Maryland (#40, respectable) and *ichigan (#7, easily the toughest challenge). So we have some above average offenses in PSU and Maryland, then what appears to be easily the toughest challenge with *ichigan to end the season. Hate to say it, but *ichigan is going to be a hell of a challenge for the defense and I hope we are up for it.

Good news is we have some gaps in the schedule for the defense to keep improving and gelling (and hopefully Burke has a "come to Jesus" moment and finds his game again). Iowa we should absolutely stifle, might be the worst offense I have ever watched in CFB. Then PSU will be a big test on the road, but their strength is more in the run game and I am confident we can stop that. Then NW and Indiana we should shut down before a test that is probably bigger than most think in Maryland on the road right before The Game, so it could be a trap game and I have watched Maryland enough to know their offense is seriously good and they will test our CB's if we don't improve quickly there. Then *ichigan has a lot of ways to hurt you...McCarthy is a huge improvement at QB (though he has erratic moments we can capitalize on), Corum is seriously a stud and Eichenberg better be in his face all game, and they have a great TE (Schoonmaker) and their WRs are pretty solid (Bell, Wilson and Henning are good, but there are others with capability).

My hope is our starting CB play improves dramatically and we should be able to get the job done with our explosive offense. But I really think Burke and Brown have to just step up and play the ball better in air...they are in position, they just don't get their heads around to play the ball. I do not think JK, Hancock, J Brown or Turner are ready to face the better WRs that we are going to run into the rest of the season quite yet, or at least wouldn't be an improvement over Burke and Brown. Point is, I don't think we can bench Burke or Brown if they are healthy, best bet is to coach them up best we can and try to get it corrected. Namely, the back shoulder throw needs to be defended much better. MSU torched us with that because they knew their WRs wouldn't win deep unless it was a back shoulder throw...every time we were in position and the failure to adjust to that was baffling...of course they are going to do that because they don't have the athletes to actually beat us deep. I hope the CB play gets better, but each week I am losing a little bit more confidence that it will.

just for context it was 1 wr and that wr will play in the league. Reed is a stud. and he still ended up with only 1 td and less than 70 yards.
 
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just for context it was 1 wr and that wr will play in the league. Reed is a stud. and he still ended up with only 1 td and less than 70 yards.
Yeah our defense ATM is in a weird place where we give up big plays that look covered and would be with better ball awareness or not perfect throws. So we think it's terrible.

Then you go look at the stats and it's between 2-300 yards. And we probably just gave up more points than average on that lvl of production cause a few big plays vs 10 20 yard drives.
 
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Yeah our defense ATM is in a weird place where we give up big plays that look covered and would be with better ball awareness or not perfect throws. So we think it's terrible.

Then you go look at the stats and it's between 2-300 yards. And we probably just gave up more points than average on that lvl of production cause a few big plays vs 10 20 yard drives.
The defense has given up so many weird big plays that I guess it's just normal at this point. The missed tackle on styles, bobbled catch by ND, catch that was incomplete vs ND, jump ball to Mayer caught and then fumbled, two drives aided by penalties vs ark state, missed tackle on 3rd down vs Toledo, scramble jump ball for 7 vs Toledo, bs late TD to Wisconsin, muffed punt for 7 vs Rutgers, pick 6 vs Sparty, drive aided by 35 yards in penalties vs sparty and then the bs garbage time TD vs Sparty.

Literally you take away all of that and this defense is giving up 7-10 points per game. However we sort of keep doing these things so we have to adjust.

To me it seems like stopping the penalties, tackle properly and bowing up in the red zone is our priorities.
 
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It's not just a Herbie-ism. You can't adequately cover if you don't know what's going on and not knowing where the ball is or even making the attempt to find it, in addition to making it impossible for you to attempt to deflect or intercept the ball, leaves you at a higher risk for an interference call even if your coverage was good up to that point. For all we've heard about being an attacking defense, and most of it has exceeded my expectations, this point seems to be lacking with at least some of the corners. I think they can and will focus on it during the bye and against Iowa, but if it isn't sorted toward the end of the season, it will hurt us.

It is a Herbie-ism when he leaves out context 99% of the time. If you are in phase with the WR, you can look back for the ball. If you are out of phase, you play through the hands. Both are proven to be effective. Both have their drawbacks. Most coaches teach both ways.

Cam Brown looked back for the ball on both of the long passes he gave up. He just didn’t make the play.
 
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