2022 Rose Bowl, tOSU vs Utah, Jan 1st @ 5pm EST, ESPN

[cincibuck]

Questions: 1. If you travel and practice with the team and then opt out, is the team responsible for your expenses? 2. Would it be for the whole shebang or just the days until you opted out? 3. Are you still a student on a schollie?

I think this is the excuse TV is looking for to push for a 16 to 20 team playoff season to fill their schedule. Next will be the Bowl Game owners insisting the playoffs rotate through their Southern clime. I'm rapidly losing interest in Semi-Pro football.

 

[Buckeneye]

yeah, looks like -5 to -5.5 when it comes back up depending on your book.

Down to -4.5 as of 9am.

 

[MaxBuck]

Just sayin': Trust me on this comment, it's from experience. Time sure doesn't slow down later in life, the older you get the faster time flies.

The reason for this is, of course, that the older one is the better life becomes.

Time flies when you're having fun.

 

[Don Muenz]

Vita fugits, too.

 

[buckeyeintn]

The reason for this is, of course, that the older one is the better life becomes.

Time flies when you're having fun.

Then I must be having a fantastic time.
Now, where did I put my pants?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Questions: 1. If you travel and practice with the team and then opt out, is the team responsible for your expenses? 2. Would it be for the whole shebang or just the days until you opted out? 3. Are you still a student on a schollie?

I think this is the excuse TV is looking for to push for a 16 to 20 team playoff season to fill their schedule. Next will be the Bowl Game owners insisting the playoffs rotate through their Southern clime. I'm rapidly losing interest in Semi-Pro football.

Bowl game owners? Their bought and paid for bitches like Gene Smith are already arguing why Ohio State couldn't host a playoff game. I have to admit if an expanded playoff is all bowls, I'm out.

 

[Systems_id]

Then I must be having a fantastic time.
Now, where did I put my pants?

You wear pants?

 

[Mike80]

Questions: 1. If you travel and practice with the team and then opt out, is the team responsible for your expenses? 2. Would it be for the whole shebang or just the days until you opted out? 3. Are you still a student on a schollie?

It's very doubtful the expenses are broken down into an individual per player price. They get group rates for everything and it's hideously stupid to go down this way of thinking when you account for recruiting effects and team morale. No one that matters really cares at this point - it's a glorified scrimmage now that the CFP is in place.

I think this is the excuse TV is looking for to push for a 16 to 20 team playoff season to fill their schedule. Next will be the Bowl Game owners insisting the playoffs rotate through their Southern clime. I'm rapidly losing interest in Semi-Pro football.

It's really for ESECACCPN to stack the playoffs with 1 or 2 B1G teams, 5-7 SEC teams, maybe a PAC-12 team and a couple ACC teams.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

Incredibly low. Take, for example, the year Jaylon Smith busted up his knee against Ohio State (2015-16) There were 41 bowls that year. With rosters of 85, that's 4,080 players. Smith's injury represents 0.025% of players getting hurt. Now, Smith was projected to be a top 5 pick, and instead went 34th. He signed a $6.49M contract, 4.42M guaranteed with a 2.92M signing bonus. His second contract was a 5 year extension and was good for 64M, 35.5M guaranteed.

In fairness, there were probably more injuries that bowl season. But, the point remains, the number of people sustaining injuries that hurt their future is less than 0.1% any given bowl season.

And that was on an after the play was over shit-shot from Decker. I lost a ton of like for Decker with that.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Questions: 1. If you travel and practice with the team and then opt out, is the team responsible for your expenses? 2. Would it be for the whole shebang or just the days until you opted out? 3. Are you still a student on a schollie?

I think this is the excuse TV is looking for to push for a 16 to 20 team playoff season to fill their schedule. Next will be the Bowl Game owners insisting the playoffs rotate through their Southern clime. I'm rapidly losing interest in Semi-Pro football.

The players helped build the brand that makes the school the money that it receives. Would OSU be in the Rose Bowl without Olave and company? Why wouldn't OSU pay for them to go?

I think the thing that might help people get comfortable with this brave new world is to think of players as what they really are; legal adults who have a skill that makes them an asset to people who are in the business of making money off of a football team's brand.

Having that skill means they have economic value. Why shouldn't they be compensated for that? Who else is asked to work for free AND potentially hurt their future earning power while others profit from their work?

It's capatilisim. Players are free from indentured servitude. There is nothing new or remarkable here other than the length of time that system stayed in place.

 

[jwinslow]

Questions: 1. If you travel and practice with the team and then opt out, is the team responsible for your expenses? 2. Would it be for the whole shebang or just the days until you opted out? 3. Are you still a student on a schollie?

I think this is the excuse TV is looking for to push for a 16 to 20 team playoff season to fill their schedule. Next will be the Bowl Game owners insisting the playoffs rotate through their Southern clime. I'm rapidly losing interest in Semi-Pro football.

Considering they kept Pope on scholarship (and were good to do so), quibbling over a couple of days for Olave seems a little trivial.

What's the percentage of players getting hurt the last game of their career during a bowl game prior to going to the NFL?

% of player injuries that impact draft status <<<<<< % of players successfully making insurance claim

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...ll-receive-insurance-payment-myles-jack-wont/

Myles Jack can earn up to 6.3M on his rookie deal. Many had Jack in the top 5/10 before his injury. Bosa earned 20M on his rookie deal.



I'd also submit that the focus on the bowl game is strictly topical. Suffering a bad injury in late October is also a major risk. Teams are always looking for a reason to doubt a prospect, and most of them would love to submarine his draft stock to get him later in the draft.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

The players helped build the brand that makes the school the money that it receives. Would OSU be in the Rose Bowl without Olave and company? Why wouldn't OSU pay for them to go?

I think the thing that might help people get comfortable with this brave new world is to think of players as what they really are; legal adults who have a skill that makes them an asset to people who are in the business of making money off of a football team's brand.

Having that skill means they have economic value. Why shouldn't they be compensated for that? Who else is asked to work for free AND potentially hurt their future earning power while others profit from their work?

It's capatilisim. Players are free from indentured servitude. There is nothing new or remarkable here other than the length of time that system stayed in place.

As it stands, I believe the schools can't pay the players directly. The bowls definitely could pay them as "ambassadors." Unfortunately, the bowls are rank parasites who exist to only take and never give.

 

[Jaxbuck]

As it stands, I believe the schools can't pay the players directly. The bowls definitely could pay them as "ambassadors." Unfortunately, the bowls are rank parasites who exist to only take and never give.

OSU can, if I am not mistaken, help players with their NIL deals under Ohio laws. So, same net effect.

Completely agree on Bowls. I am fine keeping them as long as they aren't part of the playoffs. Go back to being nice rewards for teams that had a good season but didn't make the playoffs then let's see how the economics adjust and how big of a dick they think they are swinging.

 

[jwinslow]

Bowl game owners? Their bought and paid for bitches like Gene Smith are already arguing why Ohio State couldn't host a playoff game. I have to admit if an expanded playoff is all bowls, I'm out.

I'm sure they'll try, but the entire system is built around warm weather people staying in their region, and the rest scheduling a special occasion/vacation to get away.

There's no chance anyone pays for 3 games.

If they were shrewd, they'd let them play 1-2 regional games at home and siphon a cut of that for the CFP.

 

[jakenick06]

I don’t usually care about how a player’s comments could be perceived, bc Ohio St has historically always backed it up….but damn, the way this team (and defense in particular) has been manhandled this season by similarly built teams, I’d love for him to have shelved the confidence and stuck to coach speak.