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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
I'd probably bump the juggalos into fourth. Their ND win is better than anything tsun or OU has. Plus, they're a pretty complete team. tsun and ou are both deeply flawed in one way or another.
My top four, right now, would be:
- UGA
- Ohio State
- Bama
- Juggalo
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I really believe the committee has become more sophisticated than won/loss and head-to-head.
They are looking at some of those sophisticated numbers folks are coming up with. Also how teams are trending. And certainly level of competition, for which you don't have a good picture until late in the season.
I think Klatt and Ord are pretty close, although Klatt has UM overrated due to level of competition and their obvious issues on offense. But that will sort itself out over the next five weeks.
Right now the debate is just a bunch of didily poo - which I dearly love (mostly the didily, not so much the poo).
They are looking at some of those sophisticated numbers folks are coming up with. Also how teams are trending. And certainly level of competition, for which you don't have a good picture until late in the season.
I think Klatt and Ord are pretty close, although Klatt has UM overrated due to level of competition and their obvious issues on offense. But that will sort itself out over the next five weeks.
Right now the debate is just a bunch of didily poo - which I dearly love (mostly the didily, not so much the poo).
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Klatt does also get to see the BiG and BigXII in person and has more sense than most voters do. Most people dont get to see UC actually play so they are harder to judge.
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Systems_id
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Yup I could see this although I honestly wouldn’t be opposed to slotting Bama ahead of OSU off of the strength of their Ole Miss win. Their defense has shown they can slow down a very good, if not elite, offense while the Buckeye defense hasn’t come close to proving otherwise. Offensively they’re relatively close to the Buckeyes as well. OU however arguably shouldn’t even be in the Top 10.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
Bowl organization wants all games in expanded College Football Playoff played at bowl sites
Bowl Season has a vested interest in ensuring that bowl games remain valued in playoff expansion
The non-profit organization Bowl Season that represents the 43 postseason bowl games has asked the College Football Playoff that all games in an expanded playoff be played entirely within the bowl system. In addition, the organization has asked for a spot at the table in further CFP discussion.
In a letter dated Monday and obtained by CBS Sports that went out to the 130 FBS presidents, athletic directors, coaches and 10 FBS commissioners, the organization stated:
"An expanded playoff should include all playoff games being played within the traditional Bowl structure, not the home site of one of the participating teams. The Bowls would provide a neutral, competitively fair setting for these games as they have throughout their history."
As currently proposed, a 12-team playoff would include four first-round play-in games for eight teams at campus sites. The next two rounds in the quarterfinals and finals would be played at bowl sites. Those sites would presumably be the current New Year's Six bowls – Cotton, Fiesta, Orange, Peach and Rose -- though the specific sites have yet to be officially determined.
Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ollege-football-playoff-played-at-bowl-sites/
Bowl Season has a vested interest in ensuring that bowl games remain valued in playoff expansion
The non-profit organization Bowl Season that represents the 43 postseason bowl games has asked the College Football Playoff that all games in an expanded playoff be played entirely within the bowl system. In addition, the organization has asked for a spot at the table in further CFP discussion.
In a letter dated Monday and obtained by CBS Sports that went out to the 130 FBS presidents, athletic directors, coaches and 10 FBS commissioners, the organization stated:
"An expanded playoff should include all playoff games being played within the traditional Bowl structure, not the home site of one of the participating teams. The Bowls would provide a neutral, competitively fair setting for these games as they have throughout their history."
As currently proposed, a 12-team playoff would include four first-round play-in games for eight teams at campus sites. The next two rounds in the quarterfinals and finals would be played at bowl sites. Those sites would presumably be the current New Year's Six bowls – Cotton, Fiesta, Orange, Peach and Rose -- though the specific sites have yet to be officially determined.
Entire article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ollege-football-playoff-played-at-bowl-sites/
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buckeyeintn
Legend
I agree completely with this statement. After all, the great majority of bowl games are played within the S-E-C!! and the Big 12 footprint, with most of those in the S-E-C!! footprint. How much more neutral can you get than that? Making it much more accessible for 1 fanbase at the game than the other screams neutrality.
I do understand the current bowls wanting to protect their turf, but that statement is so far-fetched only an S-E-C!! fan would believe it. (I started to say "delusional S-E-C!! fan," but realized that is redundant).
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someone actually said that. Classic.
Miami won how many NC's on their home field?
USC went all the way across town to the Rose Bowl for how many?
LSU in the Sugar Bowl? 2003, '07 and '19 if I am not mistaken.
Bama to either New Orleans or Atlanta seems a perfectly neutral and competitively fair setting.
Come on up for the ConAgra Bowl in Indianapolis or, god forbid, one of the open air northern stadiums for a playoff game then talk to us about fair you fucking clown.
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Its going to be hilarious if UGA beats Bama in the SECCG, there will be a talking head lobby for a 2 loss non SEC champ Bama in the playoff. "THEY RAN INTO A BUZZSAW UGA TEAM, LOOK AT THE EYE TEST THE REST OF THE YEAR!" "HOW CAN WE DROP THEM OUT FOR LOSING TO THE #1 TEAM!"
Eye test being SEC SEC SEC!
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
Meanwhile, in crazytown. I also like how they seed Ohio State 9th in their fantasy expanded playoff.
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RE: 2021 College Football Playoff Rankings
(Today 02:07 PM)geef Wrote: (Today 01:59 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: (Today 01:53 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: (Today 01:39 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: Could you guys imagine how many people would watch the **** out of this?! I have no idea what miserable human being would be against something like this moving forward...
My dream scenario is for things to break right and for us to draw Oregon or Iowa to open the playoffs this year.
That would be magical...if we end up in the 2/3 game and avoid Georgia/Alabama or OSU in Round 1 I will be THRILLED
It's obviously still way early, but it feels like it's trending toward those being the other three teams - I'm thinking a 2-loss Alabama still gets in over a 1-loss Oklahoma or any 1-loss ACC team, but Oregon would have to lose too.
Alabama is mortal this year. As a matter of fact, of all the teams being bantered about in the CFP scenarios, UC and Georgia are the two MOST solid teams; ALL the other ones have a glaring weakness or two. Alabama seems to lack depth and just doesn't have the same "driven" mentality this year, Ohio State has a glaring lack of defense, Oklahoma's Defense is almost non-existent and the have had QB issues, Oregon has been wildly inconsistent and has shown weakness in their Defense, Iowa has had an anemic Offense and a porous defense.
UC's one glaring issue has been our lack of a consistent PK. That's it. We have shown some inconsistency but have not had to "dig out" of any huge holes. (Have we even been behind by more than a score this entire season?) Our Defense matches our Offense's big-play capability, especially our secondary which many commentators are calling "The Best" in college football...period. God forbid we should actually "click" on both sides of the ball at the same time.
All that has to happen is for everything to click-into-place and this team is eminently capable of beating Georgia, Alabama, or Ohio State by a decisive margin. Even playing "out-of-sorts," we can take Georgia down the stretch.
Yes, we have to "get there" first, but assuming we do, there's not another team outside of Georgia that has the complete package we do.
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RE: 2021 College Football Playoff Rankings
(Today 02:07 PM)geef Wrote: (Today 01:59 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: (Today 01:53 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: (Today 01:39 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: Could you guys imagine how many people would watch the **** out of this?! I have no idea what miserable human being would be against something like this moving forward...
My dream scenario is for things to break right and for us to draw Oregon or Iowa to open the playoffs this year.
That would be magical...if we end up in the 2/3 game and avoid Georgia/Alabama or OSU in Round 1 I will be THRILLED
It's obviously still way early, but it feels like it's trending toward those being the other three teams - I'm thinking a 2-loss Alabama still gets in over a 1-loss Oklahoma or any 1-loss ACC team, but Oregon would have to lose too.
Alabama is mortal this year. As a matter of fact, of all the teams being bantered about in the CFP scenarios, UC and Georgia are the two MOST solid teams; ALL the other ones have a glaring weakness or two. Alabama seems to lack depth and just doesn't have the same "driven" mentality this year, Ohio State has a glaring lack of defense, Oklahoma's Defense is almost non-existent and the have had QB issues, Oregon has been wildly inconsistent and has shown weakness in their Defense, Iowa has had an anemic Offense and a porous defense.
UC's one glaring issue has been our lack of a consistent PK. That's it. We have shown some inconsistency but have not had to "dig out" of any huge holes. (Have we even been behind by more than a score this entire season?) Our Defense matches our Offense's big-play capability, especially our secondary which many commentators are calling "The Best" in college football...period. God forbid we should actually "click" on both sides of the ball at the same time.
All that has to happen is for everything to click-into-place and this team is eminently capable of beating Georgia, Alabama, or Ohio State by a decisive margin. Even playing "out-of-sorts," we can take Georgia down the stretch.
Yes, we have to "get there" first, but assuming we do, there's not another team outside of Georgia that has the complete package we do.
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Except for “head-to-head matters” when tOSU and Oregon are involved, I’ve already heard that this week.
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Meanwhile, in crazytown. I also like how they seed Ohio State 9th in their fantasy expanded playoff.
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RE: 2021 College Football Playoff Rankings
(Today 02:07 PM)geef Wrote: (Today 01:59 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: (Today 01:53 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: (Today 01:39 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: Could you guys imagine how many people would watch the **** out of this?! I have no idea what miserable human being would be against something like this moving forward...
My dream scenario is for things to break right and for us to draw Oregon or Iowa to open the playoffs this year.
That would be magical...if we end up in the 2/3 game and avoid Georgia/Alabama or OSU in Round 1 I will be THRILLED
It's obviously still way early, but it feels like it's trending toward those being the other three teams - I'm thinking a 2-loss Alabama still gets in over a 1-loss Oklahoma or any 1-loss ACC team, but Oregon would have to lose too.
Alabama is mortal this year. As a matter of fact, of all the teams being bantered about in the CFP scenarios, UC and Georgia are the two MOST solid teams; ALL the other ones have a glaring weakness or two. Alabama seems to lack depth and just doesn't have the same "driven" mentality this year, Ohio State has a glaring lack of defense, Oklahoma's Defense is almost non-existent and the have had QB issues, Oregon has been wildly inconsistent and has shown weakness in their Defense, Iowa has had an anemic Offense and a porous defense.
UC's one glaring issue has been our lack of a consistent PK. That's it. We have shown some inconsistency but have not had to "dig out" of any huge holes. (Have we even been behind by more than a score this entire season?) Our Defense matches our Offense's big-play capability, especially our secondary which many commentators are calling "The Best" in college football...period. God forbid we should actually "click" on both sides of the ball at the same time.
All that has to happen is for everything to click-into-place and this team is eminently capable of beating Georgia, Alabama, or Ohio State by a decisive margin. Even playing "out-of-sorts," we can take Georgia down the stretch.
Yes, we have to "get there" first, but assuming we do, there's not another team outside of Georgia that has the complete package we do.
They couldn't beat Indiana or 1-6 Navy "decisively" yet are just on the cusp of blowing out Georgia, Bama or Ohio State. Lol
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Meanwhile, in crazytown.
My dream scenario is for things to break right and for us to draw Oregon or Iowa to open the playoffs this year.
That would be magical...if we end up in the 2/3 game and avoid Georgia/Alabama or OSU in Round 1 I will be THRILLED
It's obviously still way early, but it feels like it's trending toward those being the other three teams - I'm thinking a 2-loss Alabama still gets in over a 1-loss Oklahoma or any 1-loss ACC team, but Oregon would have to lose too.
Alabama is mortal this year. As a matter of fact, of all the teams being bantered about in the CFP scenarios, UC and Georgia are the two MOST solid teams; ALL the other ones have a glaring weakness or two. Alabama seems to lack depth and just doesn't have the same "driven" mentality this year, Ohio State has a glaring lack of defense, Oklahoma's Defense is almost non-existent and the have had QB issues, Oregon has been wildly inconsistent and has shown weakness in their Defense, Iowa has had an anemic Offense and a porous defense.
UC's one glaring issue has been our lack of a consistent PK. That's it. We have shown some inconsistency but have not had to "dig out" of any huge holes. (Have we even been behind by more than a score this entire season?) Our Defense matches our Offense's big-play capability, especially our secondary which many commentators are calling "The Best" in college football...period. God forbid we should actually "click" on both sides of the ball at the same time.
All that has to happen is for everything to click-into-place and this team is eminently capable of beating Georgia, Alabama, or Ohio State by a decisive margin. Even playing "out-of-sorts," we can take Georgia down the stretch.
Yes, we have to "get there" first, but assuming we do, there's not another team outside of Georgia that has the complete package we do.
What the hell is this nonsense? Kentucky? Michigan State? Wake Forest? Looks more like a March Madness bracket to me.
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Don Muenz
Kill the blow. Let the devil sort them out.
Meanwhile, in crazytown. I also like how they seed Ohio State 9th in their fantasy expanded playoff.
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RE: 2021 College Football Playoff Rankings
(Today 02:07 PM)geef Wrote: (Today 01:59 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: (Today 01:53 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: (Today 01:39 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: Could you guys imagine how many people would watch the **** out of this?! I have no idea what miserable human being would be against something like this moving forward...
My dream scenario is for things to break right and for us to draw Oregon or Iowa to open the playoffs this year.
That would be magical...if we end up in the 2/3 game and avoid Georgia/Alabama or OSU in Round 1 I will be THRILLED
It's obviously still way early, but it feels like it's trending toward those being the other three teams - I'm thinking a 2-loss Alabama still gets in over a 1-loss Oklahoma or any 1-loss ACC team, but Oregon would have to lose too.
Alabama is mortal this year. As a matter of fact, of all the teams being bantered about in the CFP scenarios, UC and Georgia are the two MOST solid teams; ALL the other ones have a glaring weakness or two. Alabama seems to lack depth and just doesn't have the same "driven" mentality this year, Ohio State has a glaring lack of defense, Oklahoma's Defense is almost non-existent and the have had QB issues, Oregon has been wildly inconsistent and has shown weakness in their Defense, Iowa has had an anemic Offense and a porous defense.
UC's one glaring issue has been our lack of a consistent PK. That's it. We have shown some inconsistency but have not had to "dig out" of any huge holes. (Have we even been behind by more than a score this entire season?) Our Defense matches our Offense's big-play capability, especially our secondary which many commentators are calling "The Best" in college football...period. God forbid we should actually "click" on both sides of the ball at the same time.
All that has to happen is for everything to click-into-place and this team is eminently capable of beating Georgia, Alabama, or Ohio State by a decisive margin. Even playing "out-of-sorts," we can take Georgia down the stretch.
Yes, we have to "get there" first, but assuming we do, there's not another team outside of Georgia that has the complete package we do.
Bob Dylan: “The man ain’t got no culture.”
And, I would add, no bank account either if he is betting his own line.
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