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2018 tOSU Defense Discussion

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Systems_id said:
If we hold PSU to 28 I’ll take back every bad thing I ever said about this defense, because that would be a hell of a feat.
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No it wouldnt... they are 82nd in passing in the country. If we let this team wrack up 200+ rushing we should be ashamed. We know it's coming so stop them. This is a good rushing team but overall they are not as good as the past few seasons.

In the past few seasons we've held them under 300 each time despite them being more explosive.

I am expecting them to score more than 24+ for sure but I'm not happy expecting that. If we stop the run this team doesnt break 20 on us. Big IF tho
 
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OHIO STATE LINEBACKERS BELIEVE THEY'RE OFF TO SOLID START, BUT KNOW THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT

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Coming off of what was widely regarded to be a disappointing season for Ohio State’s linebackers in 2017, the narrative surrounding the Buckeyes’ play at that position hasn’t been much better so far in 2018.

As Ohio State’s defense has struggled with giving up big plays early in the season – including three touchdown runs of at least 78 yards, making the Buckeyes defense the only defense that has surrendered that many plays that long already this season – the linebackers have been pinned with much of the blame.

The box score from the Buckeyes’ 49-6 win over Tulane on Saturday didn’t help matters, either, as none of Ohio State’s three starting linebackers – Malik Harrison, Pete Werner and Tuf Borland – were credited with a single tackle in the game.

Ohio State’s linebackers, and their coaches, acknowledge that their play could be better. But they also don’t believe they’ve played badly.

“Always room for improvement,” Werner said Tuesday. “But as far as doing our job, being in the right places at the right time, I think we’re off to a good start.”

While Urban Meyer has harped on the need for the Buckeyes to stop allowing big plays, identifying that as the biggest area in which the team needs to improve while speaking Tuesday on the Big Ten football coaches’ teleconference, Ohio State’s head coach was taken aback during his press conference on Monday when told that the Buckeyes’ starting linebackers hadn’t recorded any tackles against the Green Wave, as he did not believe that was indicative of their play.

“I did not know that,” Meyer responded. “Did we not have any champions there?” (The Buckeyes didn’t name any of their linebackers as team champions for the win over Tulane.)

Ohio State co-defensive coordinator Alex Grinch said Tuesday that while there are plays that the linebackers would like to have back, he believes that’s true of every position at this point in the season, and doesn’t believe the linebackers have necessarily made any more mistakes than any other position group on the Buckeyes’ defense.

“There’s plays at every position that we’d like to have back. And it goes back to what’s the standard. You can say good and walk away, and it’s probably closer to good than it is the other side of it, but at the same token, it’s a position that features several young guys,” Grinch said. “But awfully excited about those guys, and every week, you’re getting that much closer to playing at the level we expect them to.”

Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...id-start-but-know-theres-room-for-improvement
 
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ScriptOhio said:
But awfully excited about those guys, and every week, you’re getting that much closer to playing at the level we expect them to.”
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How long have we been hearing this now?

I mean we're talking seasons, not individual weeks in a given season but fucking seasons of this bullshit.

It's not that fucking hard.
 
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ShowMeBuck said:
It’s been nowhere near the same since Fick left.
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he had the same nonsense under his watch

They had to move a SR fullback over to Mike in '12 to get someone who knew how to read a play and fill a gap. He could of course do it instantly with little to no coaching.
Fickell was there in 2013, disaster that it was.
Then they recruited Raekwon McMillan.
Now we are back to guys who can't consistently fill the right gap to save their lives.

I think it's a recruiting issue. Focus more on actual, experienced and instinctive Mike linebackers. Save the SPARQ freaks for OLB.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
he had the same nonsense under his watch

They had to move a SR fullback over to Mike in '12 to get someone who knew how to read a play and fill a gap. He could of course do it instantly with little to no coaching.
Fickell was there in 2013, disaster that it was.
Then they recruited Raekwon McMillan.
Now we are back to guys who can't consistently fill the right gap to save their lives.

I think it's a recruiting issue. Focus more on actual, experienced and instinctive Mike linebackers. Save the SPARQ freaks for OLB.
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Stop trying to find the next Darron Lee is what I think. Like you said it's not always about speed and the such. They need to go after kids who are ball hawks and show grit. LB is about playing assignment football and if you cant do that then who cares how fast you are because itll end badly every single time.
 
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bukIpower said:
Stop trying to find the next Darron Lee is what I think. Like you said it's not always about speed and the such. They need to go after kids who are ball hawks and show grit. LB is about playing assignment football and if you cant do that then who cares how fast you are because itll end badly every single time.
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If I recall correctly, Meyer didn't want to offer Lee and Fickell had to convince Meyer to offer him
 
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bigfrankfoota1 said:
They have good linebackers that can help them now. They just aren’t being given the chance to prove it.( Booker, Keandre, Hillard)
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But we also have good LBs aalready playing in Borland, Harrison and Werner. It has come down to the inept coaching. Let’s not act like the starters and Browning aren’t talented in their own right. It’s funny remembering how everyone thought the WR play was so bad last year, and a coaching change made a world of difference(it helped that Hartline is a young up and coming coach with actual NFL player experience). Our talent is no different than the other elite CFB teams
 
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bukIpower said:
Stop trying to find the next Darron Lee is what I think. Like you said it's not always about speed and the such. They need to go after kids who are ball hawks and show grit. LB is about playing assignment football and if you cant do that then who cares how fast you are because itll end badly every single time.
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Zero issue with the type of recruits, all the issue with how they're being coached.
 
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This!!!! At least it feels now like the defensive coaches are seeing what we are all seeing and saying (they may have been saying it all along but this is the first time I have read about a coach actually saying it out loud).



ALEX GRINCH
ON CREATING A STOUT DEFENSE
  • Highlighted the importance of "gap integrity."
  • "Any issues we've had on defense this year have stemmed from a lack of gap integrity."
  • "There's a finishing aspect to it too," Grinch said of making a tackle.
 
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Frohlich said:
This!!!! At least it feels now like the defensive coaches are seeing what we are all seeing and saying (they may have been saying it all along but this is the first time I have read about a coach actually saying it out loud).



ALEX GRINCH
ON CREATING A STOUT DEFENSE
  • Highlighted the importance of "gap integrity."
  • "Any issues we've had on defense this year have stemmed from a lack of gap integrity."
  • "There's a finishing aspect to it too," Grinch said of making a tackle.
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