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matt_thatsme
Ain’t nobody got time for that
Poor tackling at the point of attack compounded by bad angles taken by safeties probably makes up 90% of the yardage on all of the 20+ yardage plays against tOSU this year. There have been a few times where the other team just outschemed or made a great play, but time and again where there has been a big play it has been a missed tackle near of the LOS and then a safety taking a terrible angle. It happened several times against Oregon State and a few times against TCU. The good news is that it is happening less, though, so clearly it has been a point of emphasis.
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Drubuck
What time is it?
Agree completely. Out of position at point of attack makes it easy to run through arm tackles. And the D has grown a lot since Oregon. TCU is a good team and fast as hell. 2nd half D adjusted and made better tackles and plays overall. Very promising moving forward. See how teams attack without the Boss factor should he be out long term
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I'd say 14-17 ish against average teams, 17-24 vs the better teams (like a TCU) just as a general guide. I don't think expecting anything lower than that is very realistic unless the opponent is very bad. Offenses are so good anymore and combines with A LOT of press man defense, some things are just going to happen.
Only surrendering anything in the 20's is almost certain victory.
Giving up 30+ anytime they walk on the field is nowhere near good enough and is almost certain of at least one loss, when you can't just outscore the opponent.
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bukIpower
Head Coach
Luckily i dont see a team that can do that (hold us to 30) in the big ten. You're right though in that we should be shooting for below 20 at this point.
Interesting that UFM said today he thought the LBs were playing well. Would leave all eyes on the safety position then.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
OHIO STATE FOCUSED ON CORRECTING DEFENSIVE MISTAKES THAT HAVE LED TO “TOO MANY” BIG PLAYS
Darius Anderson needed just eight steps, which took fewer than three seconds, to bolt past Ohio State’s defensive line and linebackers, leaving just one player between the TCU running back and a record-breaking touchdown.
Isaiah Pryor, the Buckeyes’ last line of defense on the play early in the second quarter of their win against TCU on Saturday, could not react quickly enough to change directions and came up short on his diving tackle attempt. Anderson slipped through the arms of the first-year starting safety and raced down the home sidelines to score on a 93-yard rush.
No player had ever gained that many yards against Ohio State on a single play from scrimmage. That should have come as a surprise — 93-yard gains don’t happen every Saturday.
But, after giving up seemingly countless long gains in the season opener, it made sense that the issue reappeared.
Though he was not able to coach the first three games of the season and had to watch them from back home in Columbus, Urban Meyer diagnosed Ohio State’s propensity to give up long gains, similar to Anderson’s, as the defense’s most necessary fix.
“On defense, too many big plays, and that's just obvious,” Meyer said. “Get aligned and get the guy down. If he makes it to the second level, get him down. That's the biggest issue on defense is eliminate the big plays.”
Oregon State gashed the Buckeye defense for seven plays — four passes and three rushes — that went for at least 25 yards. Running back Artavis Pierce got loose for rushes of 78 and 80 yards.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...-mistakes-that-have-led-to-too-many-big-plays
Darius Anderson needed just eight steps, which took fewer than three seconds, to bolt past Ohio State’s defensive line and linebackers, leaving just one player between the TCU running back and a record-breaking touchdown.
Isaiah Pryor, the Buckeyes’ last line of defense on the play early in the second quarter of their win against TCU on Saturday, could not react quickly enough to change directions and came up short on his diving tackle attempt. Anderson slipped through the arms of the first-year starting safety and raced down the home sidelines to score on a 93-yard rush.
No player had ever gained that many yards against Ohio State on a single play from scrimmage. That should have come as a surprise — 93-yard gains don’t happen every Saturday.
But, after giving up seemingly countless long gains in the season opener, it made sense that the issue reappeared.
Though he was not able to coach the first three games of the season and had to watch them from back home in Columbus, Urban Meyer diagnosed Ohio State’s propensity to give up long gains, similar to Anderson’s, as the defense’s most necessary fix.
“On defense, too many big plays, and that's just obvious,” Meyer said. “Get aligned and get the guy down. If he makes it to the second level, get him down. That's the biggest issue on defense is eliminate the big plays.”
Oregon State gashed the Buckeye defense for seven plays — four passes and three rushes — that went for at least 25 yards. Running back Artavis Pierce got loose for rushes of 78 and 80 yards.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...-mistakes-that-have-led-to-too-many-big-plays
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bukIpower
Head Coach
Once again Greg lamented the LBs have actually played quite well this year and I have to say I dont think they've played that bad.
Said the big hit against TCU we were cheating on the formation and then obviously the poor angel.
Seems like it's more on the safety like most of us think.
Whats Interesting though is I rewatched a bit of the 2nd half and we ran a 3-3-5 with our DL over the two gaurds and the center. It absolutely shut down the interior run and I really hope we run that vs PED. PED loves to run McSorely A gap and that aint happening with that formation.
Besides forcing teams to run wide is a great thing considering our team speed. It's a great switch up from our wide split look.
Said the big hit against TCU we were cheating on the formation and then obviously the poor angel.
Seems like it's more on the safety like most of us think.
Whats Interesting though is I rewatched a bit of the 2nd half and we ran a 3-3-5 with our DL over the two gaurds and the center. It absolutely shut down the interior run and I really hope we run that vs PED. PED loves to run McSorely A gap and that aint happening with that formation.
Besides forcing teams to run wide is a great thing considering our team speed. It's a great switch up from our wide split look.
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zincfinger
Gert Frobe-approved
So, two linemen on A-gaps and one on (I assume) a B-gap? Did you notice what the usual personnel was in this front?
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bukIpower
Head Coach
No it went like this..
Jones was heads up over the center and both Landers/Cooper were heads up over the gaurds.
IMO this would be a good idea more so now because we have got to limit our DEs due to lack of experienced depth. We have a ton of talent in the secondary depth and relatively depth at LB.
Watch LSUs defense they do that formation a ton and its outstanding stopping the inside run game.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
NICK BOSA'S INJURY GIVES OHIO STATE'S OTHER DEFENSIVE ENDS AN OPPORTUNITY, AND A RESPONSIBILITY, TO STEP UP
It only takes one look at the stat sheet to see how valuable Nick Bosa has been to Ohio State at the defensive end position this season.
In just 113 snaps in Ohio State’s first three games, Bosa recorded 14 total tackles, six tackles for loss and four sacks (as well as a forced fumble, two fumble recoveries and a touchdown).
Ohio State’s five other scholarship defensive ends who have seen playing time this season – Chase Young, Jonathon Cooper, Tyreke Smith, Jashon Cornell and Tyler Friday – have combined for just 13 total tackles, three tackles for loss and three sacks on 325 snaps.
While all six of those defensive ends were highly recruited players with plenty of talent, Bosa – arguably the best defensive end in all of college football – is the clear-cut star of the group.
However, the Buckeyes will be without Bosa on Saturday against Tulane, and likely for several more games – including one of their biggest games of the season at Penn State next Saturday – after Bosa underwent surgery for a core muscle injury on Thursday.
No timetable has been set for Bosa’s recovery, but after undergoing surgery for an injury that typically requires a recovery of at least four to six weeks, it’s likely that the Buckeyes will have to play without their star defensive end for a good chunk of the regular season.
“We hope to get him back as soon as possible,” Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer said Thursday on his radio show. “We’re not sure when that will be.”
Until Bosa is able to return, Ohio State will be counting on the rest of its defensive ends to step up and fill the void.
It would be unrealistic to expect any one Ohio State defensive end – or even a combination of defensive ends – to be able to fully replicate what Bosa brings to the defense. An All-American in 2017 who had taken his game to an even higher level to open the 2018 season, Bosa is a dominant player with almost no flaws in a game. His big numbers in Ohio State’s first three games, in which he essentially played a half in each one, came all the while he was routinely drawing double-team blocks from opposing offenses in an effort to slow him down.
That said, the Buckeyes’ defensive ends who will be taking the field on Saturday are confident in their ability to get the job done, as well.
“Nick Bosa is Nick Bosa,” Cooper said Wednesday. “He’s always going to be Nick Bosa. But I feel like our motto as a defensive line has always been next man up. And guys just have to step up now, and I feel like the whole entire defensive line is going to step up, and I feel like we’re not going to miss a beat.”
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...n-opportunity-and-a-responsibility-to-step-up
It only takes one look at the stat sheet to see how valuable Nick Bosa has been to Ohio State at the defensive end position this season.
In just 113 snaps in Ohio State’s first three games, Bosa recorded 14 total tackles, six tackles for loss and four sacks (as well as a forced fumble, two fumble recoveries and a touchdown).
Ohio State’s five other scholarship defensive ends who have seen playing time this season – Chase Young, Jonathon Cooper, Tyreke Smith, Jashon Cornell and Tyler Friday – have combined for just 13 total tackles, three tackles for loss and three sacks on 325 snaps.
While all six of those defensive ends were highly recruited players with plenty of talent, Bosa – arguably the best defensive end in all of college football – is the clear-cut star of the group.
However, the Buckeyes will be without Bosa on Saturday against Tulane, and likely for several more games – including one of their biggest games of the season at Penn State next Saturday – after Bosa underwent surgery for a core muscle injury on Thursday.
No timetable has been set for Bosa’s recovery, but after undergoing surgery for an injury that typically requires a recovery of at least four to six weeks, it’s likely that the Buckeyes will have to play without their star defensive end for a good chunk of the regular season.
“We hope to get him back as soon as possible,” Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer said Thursday on his radio show. “We’re not sure when that will be.”
Until Bosa is able to return, Ohio State will be counting on the rest of its defensive ends to step up and fill the void.
It would be unrealistic to expect any one Ohio State defensive end – or even a combination of defensive ends – to be able to fully replicate what Bosa brings to the defense. An All-American in 2017 who had taken his game to an even higher level to open the 2018 season, Bosa is a dominant player with almost no flaws in a game. His big numbers in Ohio State’s first three games, in which he essentially played a half in each one, came all the while he was routinely drawing double-team blocks from opposing offenses in an effort to slow him down.
That said, the Buckeyes’ defensive ends who will be taking the field on Saturday are confident in their ability to get the job done, as well.
“Nick Bosa is Nick Bosa,” Cooper said Wednesday. “He’s always going to be Nick Bosa. But I feel like our motto as a defensive line has always been next man up. And guys just have to step up now, and I feel like the whole entire defensive line is going to step up, and I feel like we’re not going to miss a beat.”
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...n-opportunity-and-a-responsibility-to-step-up
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scarletngray
Gold Pants
Hate Bosa being out. But want to see guys like Cornell, Friday, and Smith step up. Give them lots of reps, especially in the 2nd half. Jones, Landers, Hamilton, etc. are doing great inside but also hope to see the back ups play mostly in the 2nd half. Maybe even give Landers the week off so he can be prime time for PSU. I also want to see more of Hilliard at MLB and Wade at Safety.
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