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2018 QB Battle Discussion

From the limited reps I've seen, I'd give Burrow the advantage. That said, Haskins pretty much put the team on his back and beat Michigan on the road, which is basically THE thing you are looking for in a QB at Ohio State. So I'm not sure how anyone could be up in arms about whatever QB the staff decides will be the starter.
THIS. I think we’re mostly arguing over not wanting the other guy to leave...
 
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THIS. I think we’re mostly arguing over not wanting the other guy to leave...
To me it's just more safe with Burrow. Doesn't have the big arm but that just prevents Burrow from forcing the issue.

Let's just call it even throwing the ball and Burrow the edge running. Who turns the ball over More? Haskins does and that's not disputable.

Which one can move the chains and avoid the costly turnover? To me that closer resembles Burrow.

Said many times but either way we are ok. It's my belief if it's Haskins he may wow but then he may cost us a game with turnovers.

I vote for steady and consistent.
 
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To me it's just more safe with Burrow. Doesn't have the big arm but that just prevents Burrow from forcing the issue.

Let's just call it even throwing the ball and Burrow the edge running. Who turns the ball over More? Haskins does and that's not
disputable.

Which one can move the chains and avoid the costly turnover? To me that closer resembles Burrow.

Said many times but either way we are ok. It's my belief if it's Haskins he may wow but then he may cost us a game with turnovers.

I vote for steady and consistent.

Let's not call their passing ability even. Dwayne is the better passer. Which is why he's in the running as the starter, because if passing was even, they'd go with Joe and his added running ability. Dwayne places the ball in spots Joe wishes he could. Dwayne will probably take chances he shouldn't, but he's definitely a better passer.
 
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Let's not call their passing ability even. Dwayne is the better passer. Which is why he's in the running as the starter, because if passing was even, they'd go with Joe and his added running ability. Dwayne places the ball in spots Joe wishes he could. Dwayne will probably take chances he shouldn't, but he's definitely a better passer.
They did go with Joe until the Injury... knowing when not to take chances is part of the game too.

They're very close passing the ball whether you want to admit that or not. Turning the ball over less can't be excluded
 
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They did go with Joe until the Injury... knowing when not to take chances is part of the game too.

They're very close passing the ball whether you want to admit that or not. Turning the ball over less can't be excluded

No, they did not go with Joe until the injury. Urban Meyer's last press conference before Joe got hurt last year said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...tling-for-ohio-state-backup-qb-job/104602100/

Coach Urban Meyer on Monday wouldn't say who has the edge heading into the third full week of camp. He said he's looking for the most consistent performer.

"We have a big scrimmage coming up this Saturday, and that's going to be a huge part of it," Meyer said. "That unit is playing very strong right now."

New quarterbacks coach Ryan Day said it's not critical to name a backup quarterback any time soon. The focus is just to get them all ready.

"Someone could roll an ankle tomorrow. Anything can happen. So right now we're just focused on one day at a time, getting better," Day said. "We're in preseason camp, and then we'll pick our head up pretty soon and figure it out."

Also, are quarterbacks able to improve their ball security as they get older or no? You're also acting like Dwayne is a turnover machine. He's thrown 1 interception and 1 fumble in a downpour.

Joe is a good passer, but he isn't the passer that Dwayne is. The good thing about it is, he doesn't need to be.
 
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To me it's just more safe with Burrow. Doesn't have the big arm but that just prevents Burrow from forcing the issue.

Let's just call it even throwing the ball and Burrow the edge running. Who turns the ball over More? Haskins does and that's not disputable.

Which one can move the chains and avoid the costly turnover? To me that closer resembles Burrow.

Said many times but either way we are ok. It's my belief if it's Haskins he may wow but then he may cost us a game with turnovers.

I vote for steady and consistent.
It’s funny mentioning the safe route, when so many fans were frustrated with the “safe” route that was JT Barrett. Your entire first paragraph describes Barrett to a T!

How can you say that Haskins turns the ball over more? How can you say that Haskins can’t avoid costly turnovers and move chains? Did you not watch the game last year in the 4th quarter ? It doesn’t seem like yo did...

Yes, I agree that either would be a fine starter. But we’ve had steady and consistent for the last few years, set a lot of records, had some good times. But also had a large number of frustrated times with an average arm. From the small sample size from Burrow, his arm is good, while Haskins has a great arm that puts the ball in windows that are of nfl size.

What I took from the spring game, is that Haskins was playing like he was the starter and was slinging the ball around in a scrimmage, but I HIGHLY doubt he would be free wheeling to sling it around in an actual game. Burrow played like a man fighting for a job and settled on safer intermediate and safer routes(sound familiar:thinking:) as he stayed within his limitations.

And let’s all stop with the talk of running, sounding like Haskins is a Peyton Manning/pocket sitting duck type QB. If memory serves me correctly, Mr. Haskins had a heck of a run in Ann Arbor last year, and his HS film showed a kid that COULD run if he had to, but preferred using his arm. Isn’t that what we were looking for this year?! And it was essentially what Cardale provided us, but we had stubborn OCs.

Either can win games, and probably conference titles, but I see one guy as a guy that can put the ball in a tight window to winCFP games as threaten defenses with his “sneaky” running ability while also allowing the RBs to be you know, Running Backs
 
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It’s funny mentioning the safe route, when so many fans were frustrated with the “safe” route that was JT Barrett. Your entire first paragraph describes Barrett to a T!

How can you say that Haskins turns the ball over more? How can you say that Haskins can’t avoid costly turnovers and move chains? Did you not watch the game last year in the 4th quarter ? It doesn’t seem like yo did...

Yes, I agree that either would be a fine starter. But we’ve had steady and consistent for the last few years, set a lot of records, had some good times. But also had a large number of frustrated times with an average arm. From the small sample size from Burrow, his arm is good, while Haskins has a great arm that puts the ball in windows that are of nfl size.

What I took from the spring game, is that Haskins was playing like he was the starter and was slinging the ball around in a scrimmage, but I HIGHLY doubt he would be free wheeling to sling it around in an actual game. Burrow played like a man fighting for a job and settled on safer intermediate and safer routes(sound familiar:thinking:) as he stayed within his limitations.

And let’s all stop with the talk of running, sounding like Haskins is a Peyton Manning/pocket sitting duck type QB. If memory serves me correctly, Mr. Haskins had a heck of a run in Ann Arbor last year, and his HS film showed a kid that COULD run if he had to, but preferred using his arm. Isn’t that what we were looking for this year?! And it was essentially what Cardale provided us, but we had stubborn OCs.

Either can win games, and probably conference titles, but I see one guy as a guy that can put the ball in a tight window to winCFP games as threaten defenses with his “sneaky” running ability while also allowing the RBs to be you know, Running Backs
Both turnovers for 6 points against back ups. Yes he had a great Michigan game and if I'm describing JT Barrett then give me another one of him because overall that turned out fine.

Yes Haskins isn't a statue by any means but he's like CJ in that it's hard for him to get going (once he does though he can move).

So let's settle...Dwayne is the better passer by not that much, Burrow is the better runner by not that much.

Now it boils down to who can protect the ball and who's the better leader. I have no idea who the better leader is (although UFM did talk about Burrow's improvement there if I recall) but anyone saying Dwayne isn't more turnover prone is kidding themselves. Notice I said "more" and not a turnover machine. He's not a turnover machine but so far when he makes a mistake it's been costly.

So right now I have it as followed personally...

Haskins: Arm
Burrow: legs and ball safety

To be decided: leadership

Whoever shows they can lead this team will be the guy. With Joe being older players just may default to Joe but we will have to find out.
 
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More turnover prone, with the smallest of small sample sizes. Regardless, Haskins isn’t going to lose his job because he turned the ball over in garbage time duty.

Right? Two turnovers in how much more time than Burrow played. And Burrow had a throw that absolutely should have been picked but was tipped up to a WR...although I think that might have been in 2016.
 
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Right? Two turnovers in how much more time than Burrow played. And Burrow had a throw that absolutely should have been picked but was tipped up to a WR...although I think that might have been in 2016.
Exactly. And I’m not going to hold that throw against Burrow as my only hanging point to suggest Haskins start either. As pnuts said above, and I agree 100%, it looked like Haskins was playing like he’s confident in locking the starting job up, and was attempting more difficult, NFL tight window throws. His TD pass was a thing of beauty. A lot of what I saw from Burrow were throws to get him feeling comfortable throwing the ball again.

Ultimately, I would like to see Haskins keep his job, so long as he continues to improve. If that means Burrow transfers out, best of luck to the kid. Unfortunate he couldn’t ever find the starting job, but that injury hurt his chances a lot considering what Haskins was able to accomplish on the road at Michigan.
 
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