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2017 College Football Playoffs (and Other Bowl Games)

Between the sloppy performance against Penn State and a murky #6 ranking I hope the boys put together complete games and kick everyone’s ass from here on out. It’s not simply, “win out including the CCG and all is well.” It’s just like ‘14 because we are clawing back from an early loss. We got in not just because we were Big 10 champs but because we absolutely throttled Wiscy and looked unstoppable. If you all remember clearly, we were #4 and it seemed we barely made it. The Big is a better conference this year, kinda, so that does help. Something I haven’t heard said much, we just better hope Penn State stays strong which will be hard to do with Barkley thinking payday health and the team with little to play for.

ND is a major wild card. If they are in, then at least 2 power 5 champs are left out. Put to bed the talk of a 1 loss, non conference champ from the SEC getting in. That’s hard to see—-unless maybe it’s GA but in that case you would think the head to head over ND knocks out the Domers, not tOSU.

Win out AND dominate and make it impossible to be left out. A Heisman finalist, or better, Heisman winning JT also helps tremendously.
 
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Also, I’ll say again, it’s very hard to fathom a PAC 12 champ getting in. It’s 5 teams vying for 4 spots, each of the other power 5 champs and ND. It’s also pretty hard to see the loser of the SEC championship getting in.

Losses from these teams help, ranked in order of importance IMO.

1. OU
2. ND
3. Clemson
4. Bama/UGA
5. Miami (a team nobody is talking about who controls their destiny)
 
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Not going to happen. OU is not TCU. If Ohio State and OU are both 11-1 conference champs, they will not jump us over them. And I think it's clear that the committee is not interested in sending ND a message.to join a conference. If they win out, they will be in no matter what.

Oklahoma might as well be TCU compared to the numbers Ohio State would put up in tickets, merchandise, hotels, restaurants, etc.

For anyone thinking they don’t have packages and tie-ins for these things, think again. It definitely matters in the grand scheme of things.

There are many ways they can choose to spin it for the narrative, but they will not leave out the champion of the best conference in college football that just so happens to bring in more money than any other program in the league.

Oklahoma has struggled against multiple awful teams to scrape out a win, lost to an unranked (at the time) team while the Bucks have blown through the competition and knocked off the #2 team in the country, not to mention beating a (highly?) ranked Wisconsin team in the championship if this scenario plays out.

It’s just not happening for Oklahoma if both win out. Unless they choose to put both in to avoid the controversy.
 
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Instead of saying "I told you so," I'll say this; no matter how much the committee denies it, last year and previous results matter. I saw Clemson jumping us in this week's CFP ranking almost entirely because of 31-0. Just like 59-0 gave OSU a huge benefit of the doubt in '14, 31-0 did it for Clemson this year. Given similar results, I think OSU has the opportunity to flip things in their favor, should they win out, and win out strong. '14 will give them pause, and I think reason to bump us up, again, should they finish strong and get a giant win in the B1G CCG.

For similar reasons, I think that there shouldn't be too much worry about both UGA and Bama getting in, short of a 1 point loss slugfest that is too impressive. The Bama vs. LSU rematch was a big factor in pushing the playoff format forward, and you know the committee will always have that fact at the back of their minds.

The bottom line, previous results matter to the committee, so give them something to remember.
 
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The only one to not get obliterated in a first round loss is Alabama. People forget this because no one needs to argue that Washington, FSU, MSU were overrated. They're mostly forgotten now.

Lost by:
39 - FSU to Oregon
38 - MSU to Bama
31 - OSU to Clem
20 - OU to Clem
17 - UW to Bam
07 - AL to OSU


OU and UW were not close.
 
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Yeah, that year they decided to give Bama a do over vs LSU in the title game...good times. :roll1:

As good of a time as being "jumped" by the domers and Clemson after beating the #2 team. It's just annoying. Sometimes I think the committee wants to be different just for the sake of being different.

True about the LSU/Bama debacle. Only NCG that I didn't even watch.
 
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Yeah I kind of think we are being punished for making them look dumb last year.

I'm not worried about two SEC teams and I am not worried about ND. I'm telling you by years end their resume will be weak in comparison to ours (hell two of their ranked wins won't be ranked after this week in MSU and NC State). I have no idea how you put a ND team that isn't in a conference, plays one dimensional, and has quietly IMO beat overrated teams.

There's no way ND with no top ten wins gets in over an OSU team with two top 10 wins (provided Wisconsin/Ped win out) with a conference title to boot. There's just no shot of that happening.
 
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As good of a time as being "jumped" by the domers and Clemson after beating the #2 team. It's just annoying. Sometimes I think the committee wants to be different just for the sake of being different.

True about the LSU/Bama debacle. Only NCG that I didn't even watch.
I get that feeling too.. there was no reason to put Clemson in over OSU or even OU for that matter. Why because they beat an Auburn team that's probably going to finish with at least 3 losses?
 
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Further irony, Ohio State's best team (2015) the last four years didn't make the playoffs and its worst team (2016) did. 2017 ? stay tuned ...

It would help if ND hoses the U and the U by some miracle beats Clemson.
 
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I don't see this happening because of tie-breaker rules potentially putting someone like a 9-4 Iowa team in the CFP to get murdered by Alabama. I'm comfortable using the Conference Championship game as a tiebreaker when all things are equal. I think the committee has done a pretty good job.
Not sure why you show that quote as mine when it was actually @Jaxbuck's reply to my post. I don't think conference champs should get auto-bids if they expand the field to eight teams, but rather maintain the status quo and take the top eight regardless of whether they're a conference champion or not.
 
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Example; This year, OSU can lock up the B1G east potentially after the MSU game or Illinois game. That guarantees them a spot in the CCG. If winning the CCG then is an auto bid to the playoffs, The Game is meaningless for the playoffs and NC chase.
If anyone here thinks that The Game will ever become "meaningless" needs to go start rooting for another team.
 
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