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Ok here's my plan. The first and 8th rated teams combine rosters, the second and seventh, 3rd and 6th and 4th and 5th. Then there are four teams in the playoffs, but eight schools are represented. You will thank me later. Brilliant.
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I was fine with a two team tournament. Well, let me back up... I was fine with the old bowl system and people voting on an champion... I am now fine with a 4 team tournament, as I can reluctantly agree that in a typical year, teams 1-4 can all pretty much play with one another and otherwise "stake a claim" as "deserving" the championship. I cannot say the 8th rated team "deserves" any shot, and I sure as shit cannot accept that the 16th rated team does.
I would prefer that it stay at four.
Actually, I take that back.... I could accept 8 teams... so long as there are 4, and only 4, power conferences - as @LordJeffBuck has in the past detailed - and that each of those conferences has two divisions and each conference plays a championship game and that championship game constitutes the first round of the playoff.
And.. that DOES mean some teams... your sunbelt schools.. mac.. etc.. get sent to some other division to compete for some other championship. Doesn't mean the big boys can't play them, just that they aren't in the big boy football conversation. Indeed, it'd probably be better for the Bowling Green's of the world to have a legit shot at some title they might be able to actually ever get a chance to play for - cuz the CFP championship aint that title ... and everyone knows it.
I would prefer that it stay at four.
Actually, I take that back.... I could accept 8 teams... so long as there are 4, and only 4, power conferences - as @LordJeffBuck has in the past detailed - and that each of those conferences has two divisions and each conference plays a championship game and that championship game constitutes the first round of the playoff.
And.. that DOES mean some teams... your sunbelt schools.. mac.. etc.. get sent to some other division to compete for some other championship. Doesn't mean the big boys can't play them, just that they aren't in the big boy football conversation. Indeed, it'd probably be better for the Bowling Green's of the world to have a legit shot at some title they might be able to actually ever get a chance to play for - cuz the CFP championship aint that title ... and everyone knows it.
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So, you say a team ranked 8th overall in the country by the CFP committee does not deserve a shot, but some four-loss P5 (well, P4 in LJB's model) division champion, that may not even be the CFP top 25 at all, does. Got it.
If/when they expand to eight teams (and they eventually will), because of the clamor about how close teams 4, 5, and 6 (and sometimes 7) are, they need to keep the decision model as is, just pick their top eight teams instead of their top four teams.
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*quoted from simpejim thread.
If we have to go back to 1973 to find a #5 that (without even digesting the situation) arguably deserved to be in the discussion... I'd say that supports limiting it to 4 teams.
I'd also just like to say "fuck you" to #5 and #6 on that list. For the record.
2014 was a perfect example for 4 teams. FSU didn't belong but couldn't reasonably be excluded. The other 3 teams were close enough. Baylor and TCU proved they were pretenders skating on easy records and weak conference.
2007 was chaotic churn... but why would you punish the 1 team that didn't try to clusterfuck their way out of the NCG? You really want to add more 2-loss teams to the pot instead of trying damage control there?
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shiloh
Heisman
"From kujirakira post quoting LordJeffBuck:
2007 was a similar cluster, with no single team really standing out from the pack:
BCS Rankings
_1. Ohio State (11-1)
_2. Louisiana State (11-2)
_3. Virginia Tech (11-2)
_4. Oklahoma (11-2)
_5. Georgia (10-2)
_6. Missouri (10-2)
_7. Southern Cal (10-2)
_8. Kansas (11-1)
_9. West Virginia (10-2)
10. Hawaii (12-0)
2007 was chaotic churn... but why would you punish the 1 team that didn't try to clusterfuck their way out of the NCG? You really want to add more 2-loss teams to the pot instead of trying damage control there?"
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Vivid memory of the last Saturday Dec. 1, 2007. Earlier Oklahoma beat Missouri 38-17 knocking them from the top spot. So at that point it would have been Ohio State against WV. But later that night Pitt upset WV 13-9 putting LSU in the final 2.
WVU entered the game against Pitt as 28 point favorites to win the 100th Backyard Brawl and earn a berth in the BCS championship game. The Mountaineers, however, could never get their high-powered offense going against the Panthers and were hurt by fumbles, missed field goals, and ineffective performances by Steve Slaton and Pat White, the latter of whom missed part of the game with a thumb injury. Pittsburgh, starting their backup QB Pat Bostick, was equally ineffective at moving the ball outside of the play of LeSean McCoy. Trailing by one possession late in the fourth quarter, West Virginia twice had the ball in Pitt territory, with both drives ending in Pat White being stopped on downs. The final Pitt possession saw the Panthers run the ball out of the back of the end zone for a safety as the clock expired, ending WVU's National Championship hopes.
Watched the game and quite possibly the worst game WV has ever played. And yes, 2007 was a clusterfuck. I digress.
2007 was a similar cluster, with no single team really standing out from the pack:
BCS Rankings
_1. Ohio State (11-1)
_2. Louisiana State (11-2)
_3. Virginia Tech (11-2)
_4. Oklahoma (11-2)
_5. Georgia (10-2)
_6. Missouri (10-2)
_7. Southern Cal (10-2)
_8. Kansas (11-1)
_9. West Virginia (10-2)
10. Hawaii (12-0)
2007 was chaotic churn... but why would you punish the 1 team that didn't try to clusterfuck their way out of the NCG? You really want to add more 2-loss teams to the pot instead of trying damage control there?"
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Vivid memory of the last Saturday Dec. 1, 2007. Earlier Oklahoma beat Missouri 38-17 knocking them from the top spot. So at that point it would have been Ohio State against WV. But later that night Pitt upset WV 13-9 putting LSU in the final 2.
WVU entered the game against Pitt as 28 point favorites to win the 100th Backyard Brawl and earn a berth in the BCS championship game. The Mountaineers, however, could never get their high-powered offense going against the Panthers and were hurt by fumbles, missed field goals, and ineffective performances by Steve Slaton and Pat White, the latter of whom missed part of the game with a thumb injury. Pittsburgh, starting their backup QB Pat Bostick, was equally ineffective at moving the ball outside of the play of LeSean McCoy. Trailing by one possession late in the fourth quarter, West Virginia twice had the ball in Pitt territory, with both drives ending in Pat White being stopped on downs. The final Pitt possession saw the Panthers run the ball out of the back of the end zone for a safety as the clock expired, ending WVU's National Championship hopes.
Watched the game and quite possibly the worst game WV has ever played. And yes, 2007 was a clusterfuck. I digress.
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Telekinesis
Easily Amused by the Bitterly Disappointed
I don’t know why I watch this shit...
For anyone paying attention, Clemson was getting its ass kicked by Syracuse BEFORE their QB went down with an injury.
How that gives them a pass for the playoff conversation is beyond me.
And all this talk about the Big 12 being the best conference makes my head hurt.
People must be smoking rocks.
For anyone paying attention, Clemson was getting its ass kicked by Syracuse BEFORE their QB went down with an injury.
How that gives them a pass for the playoff conversation is beyond me.
And all this talk about the Big 12 being the best conference makes my head hurt.
People must be smoking rocks.
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