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2017 College Football Playoffs (and Other Bowl Games)

So a two loss Georgia team with what signature win will pass the buckeyes with two top ten wins? A signature win is coming this Saturday if we pull it out Mike and even if Wisconsin was just a #13 ranked team we would've already had a signature win against #2 (now #8) PED.

No way a 2 loss Georgia team with their best win being Notre Dame gets in over an OSU team that has two top 10 victories. Just won't happen.

Only team that's keeping the buckeyes out if we win is Alabama.

I'd be prepared to be disappointed. I'm not getting my hopes up. After the Clemson debacle, the Oklahoma and (I guess) the Iowa games this year, I don't think a system that primarily rewards perception will put Ohio State into any type of championship bracket short of some sort of miraculous or chaotic occurrences happening....
 
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I'd be prepared to be disappointed. I'm not getting my hopes up. After the Clemson debacle, the Oklahoma and (I guess) the Iowa games this year, I don't think a system that primarily rewards perception will put Ohio State into any type of championship bracket short of some sort of miraculous or chaotic occurrences happening....
No doubt and I'm not confident at all that we will be competitive if we have to face Clemson again. However, I'm about a team having earned it and with Alabama (or even UGA in your scenario) they will not have done anything to have earned it.

At least OSU has some great wins.

As for OU losing- Yeah that'd be interesting but I think losing that late to the #12 ranked team will be very difficult for them to maintain their footing in the top 4. I really think If OU happens both Alabama and OSU will get in.
 
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I'd be prepared to be disappointed. I'm not getting my hopes up. After the Clemson debacle, the Oklahoma and (I guess) the Iowa games this year, I don't think a system that primarily rewards perception will put Ohio State into any type of championship bracket short of some sort of miraculous or chaotic occurrences happening....

Eh this is true. However college football is a very "what have you done for me lately" sport.

A good beating of Wisconsin in the B1G championship game would be fresh on the mind while the Iowa game was a month ago.
 
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How the Big Ten and Big 12 title games will affect the playoff

The fates of Alabama and Ohio State present the most interesting scenarios entering championship weekend, with the potential to cause the most difficult decisions for the 13-member selection committee. The champions of the ACC and SEC are most likely locks, and if Wisconsinand Oklahoma win the Big Ten and Big 12 title games, respectively, there won't be much drama on Selection Day on Dec. 3. If they don't both win, though, then the debate will turn to teams such as the Tide, the Buckeyes and perhaps other contenders.

Here's a look at three scenarios that could play out on championship weekend:

Here's a look at three scenarios that could play out on championship weekend:

Scenario 1: Oklahoma wins Big 12, Ohio State wins Big Ten


CFP locks
: SEC champ, ACC champ, Oklahoma
Case for No. 4: Alabama, Ohio State, ACC loser, USC

The ACC loser, whether it be Miami or Clemson, would have two losses, and it is a stretch to think the committee would reward a two-loss conference runner-up. Miami would likely be out, riding a two-game losing streak, but Clemson could at least make a case with its seven wins against teams above .500. Four of those opponents have won at least eight games, and Clemson could wind up with a win over the SEC champ if it's Auburn. The problem with USC is that, even with a Pac-12 championship, the Trojans' best and only ranked wins would be over Stanford (twice).

LSU, which wouldn't compare to an Ohio State win over undefeated Wisconsin, or even to the Buckeyes' win against No. 10 Penn State. Ohio State would have the better résumé, but would the committee consider how consistently good Alabama has looked on the field and choose the Tide?

The best comparison for Ohio State's résumé would be Penn State's in 2016. The committee is wrestling with Ohio State's 55-24 loss to Iowa, just as it did with Penn State's 49-10 loss to Michigan last season. Don't forget, the two-loss Nittany Lions beat Wisconsin that year to win the Big Ten championship and it wasn't enough. It's a different year, with different résumés, but the losses and Big Ten title would be comparable.

Although it's tempting to compare Alabama's résumé to Ohio State's in 2016, when the Buckeyes finished in the top four despite not winning their division, don't forget that the Buckeyes' nonconference win over Oklahoma carried a lot of weight with the committee. The Tide do not have a similar marquee win in or out of conference. The better comparison for Bama might be the 2015 Ohio State team, which might have been the most talented team in the country but didn't make the playoff because of one loss.

Entire article: http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...112817/acc-sec-play-games-other-cfp-scenarios
 
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OK, lets put a few things to bed here.
Spot #1 SEC WINNER
Spot #2 ACC WINNER
Spot #3 OPEN
Spot #4 OPEN
If Oklahoma wins, they are in.
If Oklahoma loses, they are OUT. They would have the same record as TCU and just lost to TCU in the last game, No way you put Oklahoma in over TCU. So the question THEN becomes, TCU or ALABAMA or tOSU.
If Wisconsin wins, they are in.
If Wisconsin loses, they are OUT. One loss Bama will trump them. So that conversation then becomes tOSU or Bama.

If Wisconsin AND Oklahoma Lose. Then it is tOSU, Bama, and TCU arguing over two spots. With TCU probably getting left out.
 
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Eh this is true. However college football is a very "what have you done for me lately" sport.

A good beating of Wisconsin in the B1G championship game would be fresh on the mind while the Iowa game was a month ago.
Ordinarily, yeah. But when you have a room of a dozen folks trying to discern and discriminate between a bunch of teams to rack-and-stack them for the chance at the national championship, their memories will extend all the way back to week one. It's just a matter of how much weight they decide to put on a particular win/loss. And when you get down to weighing two teams with identical records and somewhat similar strength-of-schedule ratings, with one having a 31-point loss to a team that finished with a losing conference record and the other with no such loss, then you can pretty much guess which team is going to end up standing on the outside...
 
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OK, lets put a few things to bed here.
Spot #1 SEC WINNER
Spot #2 ACC WINNER
Spot #3 OPEN
Spot #4 OPEN
If Oklahoma wins, they are in.
If Oklahoma loses, they are OUT. They would have the same record as TCU and just lost to TCU in the last game, No way you put Oklahoma in over TCU. So the question THEN becomes, TCU or ALABAMA or tOSU.
If Wisconsin wins, they are in.
If Wisconsin loses, they are OUT. One loss Bama will trump them. So that conversation then becomes tOSU or Bama.

If Wisconsin AND Oklahoma Lose. Then it is tOSU, Bama, and TCU arguing over two spots. With TCU probably getting left out.
What makes you think even if OU loses that they would be behind us?
 
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I'm not convinced that if TCU beats Oklahoma and we win that we would get in over Oklahoma, unfortunately.

Used to think that, but everyone has our chances going up if TCU wins

I guess it makes sense , you'll have 4 teams going for 2 spots. Bama, TCU, OSU, and OU.

TCU OSU have conf champ, other 2 lost their last game they played.

You really can't put in OU over TCU. But then they would probably put in OSU over TCU, but then again OU curb stomped OSU

Then you got Bama sitting there with not an impressive resume.

In the end I think they would choose Bama and OSU
 
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Ordinarily, yeah. But when you have a room of a dozen folks trying to discern and discriminate between a bunch of teams to rack-and-stack them for the chance at the national championship, their memories will extend all the way back to week one. It's just a matter of how much weight they decide to put on a particular win/loss. And when you get down to weighing two teams with identical records and somewhat similar strength-of-schedule ratings, with one having a 31-point loss to a team that finished with a losing conference record and the other with no such loss, then you can pretty much guess which team is going to end up standing on the outside...
even if that team has absolutely no good wins and scheduled a FCS team.. It all just depends what they decide they want to look at really.
 
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...You really can't put in OU over TCU [if TCU beats Oklahoma this weekend]...
Its not about Oklahoma being behind us [if TCU beats them this weekend]... they would HAVE to be behind TCU.
I think the committee could very easily keep OU ahead of TCU even if TCU wins their "championship game". The two teams would have identical records, a 1-1 head-to-head record, and OU would have a better win in the non-conference schedule than TCU has. The only basis for putting TCU ahead is the assumption that recent games matter more, but as far as I can tell that's only an assumption.
 
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And I'm sure none of us will forget that Ohio State team finished behind a two loss conference champ (Stanford) in the final CFP rankings that year.
That Stanford team also had one top ten win against Notre Dame who was #8 by seasons end (leaving out Iowa from the Rose Bowl).

This is an OSU team that if comes through this week will have two wins against teams who will end the season ranked in the top 10.
 
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