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2017 College Football Playoffs (and Other Bowl Games)

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Assuming we beat Wisconsin next week:

The Buckeyes had a bad loss to Iowa, but Iowa is better than what, all but three teams on Alabama's schedule? I think Alabama could reasonably make the playoff with that record—even with a crap schedule—but they lost to the only good team they played. They lost badly, and it came in their final game of the year. If peaking at the right time matters, how could you put them in?

Ohio State, meanwhile, will have played three opponents ranked in the top 5, going 2-1 against them. They also had good wins against Michigan and Michigan State, teams at the same level as Mississippi State and LSU, who are Alabama's best wins.

With all that said, the Committee slobs on Alabama's knob, so the cynic in me thinks the Tide will get in.
 
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Well not that it means anything but sure enough the rankings were what I thought.

1. Clemson
2. OU
3. Wisconsin
4. Auburn
5. Bama
6. Georgia
7. Miami
8. OSU

I really think this is what the committee will have on Tuesday as well. If bama is on the outside looking in on Tuesday there's just no way they get back in without having played.

Difference with us last year was we had 3 top ten wins and a narrow loss to another top 10 team. Also we went into championship weekend ranked 2nd where as they'll go in ranked 5th.

There's no way in hell they get back in the playoffs if they're sitting #5 on Tuesday.

We beat Wisconsin (particularly if we do it by 2+ scores) and we are in
 
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Buck33Eye11 said:
seems like it needs to be clemp, okie, georgia and hope we jump bama.
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If Georgia wins I would not be surprised at all if they take Auburn over us and USC.
Especially if it's a close loss... because the argument will be that Auburn pounded Georgia earlier and the rematch was a possible fluke coming off an emotional rivalry game.
If Auburn beats Georgia twice... there's no reason for Committee to put Georgia in; a rematch with Bama they beat soundly is also meh (and horrible ratings). It also firmly opens the door to every other 2-loss Champions this year.
 
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ZEKE103 said:
But if anything the committee shows their top requirements are always changing importance. Before last year everyone thought conference title was almost a requirement, and we proved that wrong. The committee isn't going to come out and say it, but I would not be surprised at all if they remember back to last year vs Clemson. We lobbied to get it, we were barely in, and yet we got killed. I do not think they will come out and say that, but I would not be surprised at all if that lingers in the committees minds and plays a factor, they are still human with biases.

Think to last year, PSU beat us h2h, so had a win over #2 ranked us, and beat #6 ranked Wisconsin for B10, their loss came to a highly ranked Mich badly, and to a team they had no business to Pitt.

We are almost exactly like PSU last year in this situation, a bad loss to a good team (OU), a loss to a team we had no business losing to (Iowa), a good win over a #2 team in (PSU), and in this scenario a win vs a good Wisky team in B10, just like PSU did last year.

Now you have Bama, who unlike PSU we did not have the luxury of beating H2H, they have a win over ranked LSU and MSU, and only loss came to the team a lot of people have been picking to win it all now in Auburn.

We are essentially PSU from last year, Bama is essentially us from last year. I don't like our odds personally.
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We are Penn State from last year. Bama is OSU from 2 years ago. Both teams didn't make it because there were obviously better teams for the 4 spot.

We got the break last year because even though we lost, we still dominated the game... it was a fluke at the end. That combined with multiple top 10 wins that Penn state didn't have vaulted us. Bama doesn't fit that roll, and no one from our conference is in Penn State's shoes. So the situation doesn't apply. Even in the game where we needed a comeback to beat Penn State this year, we were still the better team if you actually watched it, just almost lost it again due to a whole pile of fuck ups.

MSU got in over us the previous year because they beat us and dominated us in every way, also only had 1 loss, and we didn't have any good wins to vault us over them. That loss was supposed to be our only good win for the year. That's a better example of Bama from this year. They played no one, and when they had the shot they blew it.

Frankly I liked the 2015 season better: Ended with us dominating the domers instead of getting ass raped by clemson.

The most important thing to remember is, both of the number 4 teams got demolished and embarassed. It just means sometimes the playoff really only has 3 deserving teams. This year feels like one of those years. Whoever gets in to the number 4 spot is gonna need a lot of luck.
 
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bukIpower said:
Well not that it means anything but sure enough the rankings were what I thought.

1. Clemson
2. OU
3. Wisconsin
4. Auburn
5. Bama
6. Georgia
7. Miami
8. OSU

I really think this is what the committee will have on Tuesday as well. If bama is on the outside looking in on Tuesday there's just no way they get back in without having played.


Difference with us last year was we had 3 top ten wins and a narrow loss to another top 10 team. Also we went into championship weekend ranked 2nd where as they'll go in ranked 5th.

There's no way in hell they get back in the playoffs if they're sitting #5 on Tuesday.

We beat Wisconsin (particularly if we do it by 2+ scores) and we are in
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How in the fuck is Miami ranked ahead of us, or in the top 10? That loss should've counted as 2.

Edit: I also see Mississippi State didn't fall out of the rankings and big surprise Fresno State is 25. I have a feeling this is exactly what the committee will do. Also terrible LSU over MSU
 
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kujirakira said:
If Georgia wins I would not be surprised at all if they take Auburn over us and USC.
Especially if it's a close loss... because the argument will be that Auburn pounded Georgia earlier and the rematch was a possible fluke coming off an emotional rivalry game.
If Auburn beats Georgia twice... there's no reason for Committee to put Georgia in; a rematch with Bama they beat soundly is also meh (and horrible ratings). It also firmly opens the door to every other 2-loss Champions this year.
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Georgia winning would be great IMO..3 Losses will not get in
 
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shiloh said:
And it would make 'bama's loss look worse!
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Georgia wins, Bama and Auburn are still in the discussion. Even with 3 losses... it's a CCG loss to a team they beat soundly earlier on.
Bama and Georgia never played. So Bama is right back in it as a marquee 1 vs 4 Sugar Bowl all-SEC matchup.
Auburn wins, there's only 1 SEC team. No doubt left who the SEC champ is. Beat Georgia twice and Bama last game of the season. 2-loss Conference Champs have open invitations... just a matter of which 4 Champs the Committee likes.
 
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kujirakira said:
Georgia wins, Bama and Auburn are still in the discussion. Even with 3 losses... it's a CCG loss to a team they beat soundly earlier on.
Bama and Georgia never played. So Bama is right back in it as a marquee 1 vs 4 Sugar Bowl all-SEC matchup.
Auburn wins, there's only 1 SEC team. No doubt left who the SEC champ is. Beat Georgia twice and Bama last game of the season. 2-loss Conference Champs have open invitations... just a matter of which 4 Champs the Committee likes.
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I have to disagree. No merit at all giving props to a 3 loss team. UGA would get the nod and the other two look worse. If Auburn goes, Bama can say "well we lost to the SEC champ" yada yada. UGA winning thwarts the state of Alabama for the playoff. We're tied with Miami for #7 really, one point in AP and dead on in Coaches. As soon as someone with a real brain and any pull at all reminds everyone why they can't compare this years Bama with last years Ohio State, the argument will be over. Problem is, I dont know if anyone that matters really has the balls to do so.
 
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