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2017 College Football Playoffs (and Other Bowl Games)

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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
I have:
1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma
(Should be reversed imo)
3. Auburn
4. Wisconsin
(I could see it your way as well)
5. Bama
6. Georgia
(Georgia got annihilated, Bama soundly beat by Auburn)
7. Miami
8 OSU
(I could make an argument for OSU 7, but I wouldn't make it loudly)
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Which is exactly how I see it. So how do you have Bama out one week and then they sit out and then you put them In? IMO you cant
 
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ScriptOhio said:
Here's one guy's opinion.....

I think I’d be okay if Ohio State misses the College Football Playoff

Let me explain.

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Sure, it was an emotional roller coaster at times, but eventually, they pulled through. In what is becoming close to annual tradition, Ohio State beat Michigan earlier today, to end the regular season at 10-2. They clinched a spot in the Big Ten Championship game before the opening coin toss of ‘The Game’, and after consecutive third place finishes, ensured that Michigan would finish fourth in the division.

All of those things are pretty good, in my humble opinion. And now Ohio State gets to play another football game, against a (likely) undefeated Wisconsin squad.

There’s plenty of stakes here. For one, there’s the Big Ten Championship, and the shiny trophy, bragging rights, and record books placement that comes with it. There’s an automatic fancy bowl game invitation, perhaps against USC, or Washington, or Washington State. By virtually every metric, winning that game would equal a very successful season.

But, as of the time of this writing, anyway, there are additional possible stakes. Should Ohio State win, they have a legitimate shot at a bid in the College Football Playoff, despite their two losses. Depending on who you listen to, they might even be the favorite to grab one of those spots, should they knock off the Badgers.

I have a potentially unpopular opinion here. I don’t think I really care if they make it or not.

Let me explain

I mean, yeah, obviously, going to the Playoff is better than not going to the Playoff

Don’t get it twisted. Ohio State is my favorite college football team and if there’s a chance for them to potentially win a national title, I’d like for them to do that! I would not be rooting against such an occurrence, and I think that would be the ideal, preferred outcome. I realize that saying that I don’t really care if they make it is some intense, first-world fan stuff here, so stick with me for a second. Let’s at least be clear about that.

But even with a Big Ten championship, Ohio State’s resume has some substantial holes

n other years, perhaps most other years, this wouldn’t even really be a conversation. This Ohio State team, with this resume, wouldn’t really be in the playoff conversation last year. They certainly wouldn’t have been in it back in 2014. But because of a series of crazy losses and upsets, here we are.

It’s difficult for me to get really indignant about the idea of Ohio State potentially missing the playoff when they have two losses. And not just two losses, but two big, great, honking blowout losses. And while one of those, an early season loss to an excellent Oklahoma team, is defensible, the second, is not. Ohio State got murdered by a not-that-good Iowa team. An Iowa team that lost to Purdue. One that finished 7-5 and finished fourth in their division. And that’s a blemish that’s just too hard to ignore.

A B1G Champ Ohio State would have beaten a top-10 Wisconsin team, and a Penn State team that probably finishes in the top-15 or so, and an CFP Top 25 ranked Michigan State team (that, in our heart of hearts, I think we know isn’t really that good). I think Michigan is pretty good, but the playoff committee may disagree. And then it’s a lot of forgettable dreck.

Maybe that’s good enough for the No. 4 seed. Maybe it isn’t. Honestly, I think the margin is close enough, and OSU’s flaws apparent enough, that I can’t muster good and righteous indignation over it. If you can, that’s cool. Live your best life.

Entire article: https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2...e-football-playoff-big-ten-wisconsin-michigan
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Top 15 psu and top 25 msu? Yeah go down a tier on both pal. Top 10 psu and top 15 msu
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
My totally worthless top 10:

1. Oklahoma (11-1)
2. Clemson (11-1)
3. Wisconsin (12-0)
4. Auburn (10-2)
5. Miami (11-1)
6. Alabama (11-1)
7. Georgia (11-1)
8. Ohio State (10-2)
9. Penn State (10-2)
10. TCU (10-2)
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I like it, with the only disagreement is Miami being too high. I can't see them being higher than #7. Pitt sucks, like big time. Their biggest resume point got knocked out in ND against Tree. I still have them just ahead of osu at #8, but if they flipped and OSU was #7 and Miami#8 I wouldn't be completely shocked.
 
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I just don't see us jumping that far to get in unless we absolutely throttle Wisky like we did MSU. Tuesday night will show us Bama will be 4 or 5 overall, we will likely stay at 8. Obviously if we win out vs Wisky is out, Miami/Clemson loser is possibly out, and Auburn or UGA is out, but even still that's going to be tough jumping 4 spots. I can see us jumping ND, Wisky, likely ACC loser, and even probably SEC loser, but I just can't see it likely we leap all the way to 4. Sadly I think we land at 5th if we win vs Wisky. If it becomes apparent Bama and us are going to fight over 4 and 5, we should all mail them 2015 Sugar Bowl tape lol.

Bama is the worst team to be in the situation for us, if any team in the nation would get the benefit of the doubt like this it would be them just because of their track record alone. Plus well all know how it works, SEC teams gets killed by another SEC team, they are great still, just that other SEC is also so great. If UGA beats Auburn this time I think that would help, since Bama's loss then looks even worse, but we'll see.
 
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ZEKE103 said:
I just don't see us jumping that far to get in unless we absolutely throttle Wisky like we did MSU. Tuesday night will show us Bama will be 4 or 5 overall, we will likely stay at 8. Obviously if we win out vs Wisky is out, Miami/Clemson loser is possibly out, and Auburn or UGA is out, but even still that's going to be tough jumping 4 spots. I can see us jumping ND, Wisky, likely ACC loser, and even probably SEC loser, but I just can't see it likely we leap all the way to 4. Sadly I think we land at 5th if we win vs Wisky. If it becomes apparent Bama and us are going to fight over 4 and 5, we should all mail them 2015 Sugar Bowl tape lol.

Bama is the worst team to be in the situation for us, if any team in the nation would get the benefit of the doubt like this it would be them just because of their track record alone. Plus well all know how it works, SEC teams gets killed by another SEC team, they are great still, just that other SEC is also so great. If UGA beats Auburn this time I think that would help, since Bama's loss then looks even worse, but we'll see.
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Track record (Ohio State beat Bama in the CFP if we’re using this) isn’t figured in with the metrics, but top 10/25 wins are, along with conference championships. Sales are part of the equation as well, despite them not saying so.

Unfortunately for Bama, Ohio State holds the upper hand in all of these categories.

I think the world will be a bit shocked with the results of the top four if Ohio State beats Wisconsin, no matter what the final score is.
 
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I think all 5 Conferences have a good shot of putting out a Champion that deserves to go over Bama. The only team playing next week that shouldn't be considered is Stanford.
If it turns out we beat Wisconsin and are #5 of those Conference Champs behind Barn/UGA, Miami/Clemson, OU/TCU, and USC ... so be it. That loss to Iowa was hideous and inexcusable.
But Alabama shouldn't be in this discussion with their non-resume, FCS schedule, and non-competitive loss to the only legit Top25 team they played all year.
 
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Telekinesis said:
Track record (Ohio State beat Bama in the CFP if we’re using this) isn’t figured in with the metrics, but top 10/25 wins are, along with conference championships. Sales are part of the equation as well, despite them not saying so.

Unfortunately for Bama, Ohio State holds the upper hand in all of these categories.

I think the world will be a bit shocked with the results of the top four if Ohio State beats Wisconsin, no matter what the final score is.
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But if anything the committee shows their top requirements are always changing importance. Before last year everyone thought conference title was almost a requirement, and we proved that wrong. The committee isn't going to come out and say it, but I would not be surprised at all if they remember back to last year vs Clemson. We lobbied to get it, we were barely in, and yet we got killed. I do not think they will come out and say that, but I would not be surprised at all if that lingers in the committees minds and plays a factor, they are still human with biases.

Think to last year, PSU beat us h2h, so had a win over #2 ranked us, and beat #6 ranked Wisconsin for B10, their loss came to a highly ranked Mich badly, and to a team they had no business to Pitt.

We are almost exactly like PSU last year in this situation, a bad loss to a good team (OU), a loss to a team we had no business losing to (Iowa), a good win over a #2 team in (PSU), and in this scenario a win vs a good Wisky team in B10, just like PSU did last year.

Now you have Bama, who unlike PSU we did not have the luxury of beating H2H, they have a win over ranked LSU and MSU, and only loss came to the team a lot of people have been picking to win it all now in Auburn.

We are essentially PSU from last year, Bama is essentially us from last year. I don't like our odds personally.
 
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ZEKE103 said:
But if anything the committee shows their top requirements are always changing importance. Before last year everyone thought conference title was almost a requirement, and we proved that wrong. The committee isn't going to come out and say it, but I would not be surprised at all if they remember back to last year vs Clemson. We lobbied to get it, we were barely in, and yet we got killed. I do not think they will come out and say that, but I would not be surprised at all if that lingers in the committees minds and plays a factor, they are still human with biases.

Think to last year, PSU beat us h2h, so had a win over #2 ranked us, and beat #6 ranked Wisconsin for B10, their loss came to a highly ranked Mich badly, and to a team they had no business to Pitt.

We are almost exactly like PSU last year in this situation, a bad loss to a good team (OU), a loss to a team we had no business losing to (Iowa), a good win over a #2 team in (PSU), and in this scenario a win vs a good Wisky team in B10, just like PSU did last year.

Now you have Bama, who unlike PSU we did not have the luxury of beating H2H, they have a win over ranked LSU and MSU, and only loss came to the team a lot of people have been picking to win it all now in Auburn.

We are essentially PSU from last year, Bama is essentially us from last year. I don't like our odds personally.
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You’re talking about a team that had huge wins over top ten opponents to close the year out in 2016. Bama does not have anywhere near that resume this year. You’re also talking about one conference fighting for a spot, not one conference putting in two teams, which they try to avoid doing.

You’re talking about two wildly different circumstances. Bama’s best win is against a 4 loss team this year. Not comparable at all.
 
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