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2017 College Football Playoffs (and Other Bowl Games)

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Dryden said:
I don't know that we convinced ourselves as much as Kirby Holcutt lead us to believe the door was still open. When Rece Davis asked Kirby Holcutt about how much separation there was from 5-8 last Tuesday, Kirby should have just said, "I'm sorry, Rece, but there's very little separation from 5 through 7. Ohio St lost to Iowa by 31, they're a distant 8th.

I'm not upset we missed the playoff. I'm a little bit pissed we were used to drive ratings for their made-for-TV selection show when the committee had apparently determined there was no way Ohio State was getting in weeks ago.
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Well said. This is one of the criticisms of the committee I was referring to in my post directly above yours.
 
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And I'm upset because Alabama didn't deserve it.

We accomplished more then Alabama but then also had the extra loss. Oh well enjoy your shitty playoffs. I hope they get a Georgia v Alabama final so no TVs north of Georgia across America watches.

So it's clear to me though we look at our future schedules and we eliminate any home and home games against teams that can threaten us. So take off Texas, Notre Dame, TCU and Oregon for sure. Fill it with teams like Boise, Fresno, BYU, Boston College, and Southern Miss who all can give us good looks but clearly we outmatch.

If we want to play 1 big game fine but have it be the first game and get teams to come meet us in Indianapolis for a "neutral" game.

What I'm becoming tired of is Alabama being rewarded for setting their schedules up for them to be successful. I mean technically its the smart thing to do but when you don't see many teams doing this how is that not considered when reviewing them?

They play these neutral sight games near them where the opposing team has to travel further then them, they schedule 2 more junk teams at home after that, typically get a bye week before LSU, and then always play an FCS team before Auburn.

Meanwhile Clemson, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Michigan, Oregon, Texas, Notre Dame, Georgia, Auburn, Oklahoma, Virginia Tech, and I'm sure many more will go play games in true away fashion. These programs risk it all by doing this knowing full well they still have to play their conference games.
 
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Bill Lucas said:
I stand with Jake. There is zero reason to be upset or bitter that Ohio State got left out of the CFP. The evidence against them was damning.
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I agree.

If there were no playoff system in place and a group of objective folks were sitting around talking about who the best team in the country was they would be talking about Clemson, Georgia and Oklahoma. Ohio State doesn't deserve to be in that conversation. Alabama doesn't deserve to be in that conversation. USC doesn't deserve to be in that conservation.

The controversy is over which undeserving team gets included.

The playoff system may not be perfect, but it certainly wont be improved by adding more teams.
 
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Oh8ch said:
I agree.

If there were no playoff system in place and a group of objective folks were sitting around talking about who the best team in the country was they would be talking about Clemson, Georgia and Oklahoma. Ohio State doesn't deserve to be in that conversation. Alabama doesn't deserve to be in that conversation. USC doesn't deserve to be in that conservation.

The controversy is over which undeserving team gets included.

The playoff system may not be perfect, but it certainly wont be improved by adding more teams.
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Well exactly none of the final 4th spot were great options but who at least had some sort of quality wins? USC or tOSU.

As has been said many times it's quite easy to look consistent all year when your schedule consists of 80% of teams that have an average quality to that of Maryland or Indiana.
 
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Oh8ch said:
I agree.

If there were no playoff system in place and a group of objective folks were sitting around talking about who the best team in the country was they would be talking about Clemson, Georgia and Oklahoma. Ohio State doesn't deserve to be in that conversation. Alabama doesn't deserve to be in that conversation. USC doesn't deserve to be in that conservation.

The controversy is over which undeserving team gets included.

The playoff system may not be perfect, but it certainly wont be improved by adding more teams.
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A lot of people said we weren't worthy of being included in 2014, and we were. I'm not for a 16 playoff where some 8-4 Troy team gets invited for winning the Sunbelt. I, however, do think that any team ranked 5-8 has the opportunity to go on a run and win three games. And I'm not upset about being left out. Hell, I'm happier playing USC in the Cotton Bowl
 
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bukIpower said:
Well exactly none of the final 4th spot were great options but who at least had some sort of quality wins? USC or tOSU.

As has been said many times it's quite easy to look consistent all year when your schedule consists of 80% of teams that have an average quality to that of Maryland or Indiana.
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Again, I agree. But the fix to that is more objective standards for selecting that 4th - and undeserving - team. The fix is not in letting both USC and OSU into the playoffs.
 
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bukIpower said:
Well exactly none of the final 4th spot were great options but who at least had some sort of quality wins? USC or tOSU.

As has been said many times it's quite easy to look consistent all year when your schedule consists of 80% of teams that have an average quality to that of Maryland or Indiana.
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This was the narrative about the B1G up until a couple of years ago.
 
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Oh8ch said:
Again, I agree. But the fix to that is more objective standards for selecting that 4th - and undeserving - team. The fix is not in letting both USC and OSU into the playoffs.
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I agree... Just make SOMETHING a must have.

You can't just say "well we put them in because we can put them in" which is essentially what they were saying.

Alabama had no reason to be put in and every reason to be left out and yet here we are.

It is just so subjective which IMO isn't healthy at all. You end up putting teams in based off of past performances or past reputation and not based off of earning it.

I'm also annoyed with the ESPN and SEC relationship but I won't go there as I'm already an old man yelling at the clouds
 
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bukIpower said:
So it's clear to me though we look at our future schedules and we eliminate any home and home games against teams that can threaten us. So take off Texas, Notre Dame, TCU and Oregon for sure. Fill it with teams like Boise, Fresno, BYU, Boston College, and Southern Miss who all can give us good looks but clearly we outmatch.

What I'm becoming tired of is Alabama being rewarded for setting their schedules up for them to be successful. I mean technically its the smart thing to do but when you don't see many teams doing this how is that not considered when reviewing them?
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I heard an ESPN hack on the radio state that the SEC "schedules smarter" by playing FCS schools like Mercer. When we were scheduling Youngstown State, the narrative was "Ohio State doesn't play anybody". Funny how the paradigm shifts to suit the ESPN agenda....

Buckeye fans aren't the only ones hating on the SEC/ESPN agenda:

 
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