2017 College Football Playoffs (and Other Bowl Games)

[ORD_Buckeye]

Honestly, to me it's as simple as this. Based on the eye test, even if Alabama isn't that great the committee can probably trust them to not embarrass them for choosing them by completely [Mark May]ting the bed and killing themselves with idiotic mistakes like blown coverages, stupid penalties, and horrifically incomprehensible turnovers. I can't say the same for OSU, even if OSU's ceiling may well be higher than 'Bama's, and if I can't then I don't see why the committee would.

This team made its own bed and can lie in it. How they respond for the bowl game will play a very large part in determining their legacy, at least to me.

That said, while I'm disgusted by their on-field stupidity and inconsistency, I'm impressed by their resilience and proud and pleased that they won the conference, beat the rival (again) and the other three usual conference thorns in the side as well.

Well put.

 

[lowbuck]

Let's switch positions here for.the sake of argument. Let's say Alabama just wrapped.up an 11-2 season winning the SEC. However, they took a 15 point home loss in September to a top five team, and got murdered at Mississippi State 55-24 in early November. tOSU, on the other hand, just went 11-1 but didn't win the B1G or its division (sound familiar?).

If that were the case they would have selected Bama and left out an 11-1 Georgia (pretending Georgia wasn't in the Champ) because they would say the that Conf Champs are so important.

Better yet, reverse the name on the uniform between Georgia and Bama... If Georgia was the one sitting at #5 and not playing yesterday they would not have moved up to #4.

If it was any other team than Bama we would have got it. But we could have overcome that had we just played up to potential all season instead of being hit and miss. Its our fault for not playing up to our capability all season but we got railroaded on the resume test.

 

[shiloh]

Is it just me or are the non-playoffs bowl games going to be more fun to watch?

Ohio State vs USC in Cotton
UCF vs Auburn in Peach
Wisconsin vs Miami in Orange
Penn St vs Washington in Fiesta

If you're not a Clemson/Sooner/'Dog/Tide fan ...

 

[NFBuck]

If that were the case they would have selected Bama and left out an 11-1 Georgia (pretending Georgia wasn't in the Champ) because they would say the that Conf Champs are so important.

Better yet, reverse the name on the uniform between Georgia and Bama... If Georgia was the one sitting at #5 and not playing yesterday they would not have moved up to #4.

If it was any other team than Bama we would have got it. But we could have overcome that had we just played up to potential all season instead of being hit and miss. Its our fault for not playing up to our capability all season but we got railroaded on the resume test.

Look,.you can argue until.youre blue in the face; bottom line; don't lose to fucking Iowa by 31 points and they're in. tOSU has nobody to blame but themselves. No excuse for that game, and they're paying for it.

 

[Systems_id]

Let's switch positions here for.the sake of argument. Let's say Alabama just wrapped.up an 11-2 season winning the SEC. However, they took a 15 point home loss in September to a top five team, and got murdered at Mississippi State 55-24 in early November. tOSU, on the other hand, just went 11-1 but didn't win the B1G or its division (sound familiar?). The B1G was a bit down this year, so our best win is against a #15 Sparty team, and we lost a close game to a top-5 Ped Aggy.

Given the hypothetical scenario above, how many here would be upset if that 11-2 Bammer team that lost at home by double digits early on, and was pantsed by a mediocre Mississippi State was selected over 11-1, non conference champ Ohio State?

I'm not happy that we weren't selected, but I certainly can't argue against it.

In the grand scheme of things I have no problem with it. Just don't lie about it is all I ask.

A week ago the committee said numerous times that Alabama and Ohio State were comparable teams. A week later Ohio State beats a Top 4 team on a neutral field and wins their conference. Alabama is stuck at home. Suddenly Alabama is unequivocally a better team than Ohio State because...why?

I mean I absolutely hear what you're saying with the Iowa loss. I 100% agree with it. The problem is the committees own words suggested that, even with that loss, Ohio State was comparable to Alabama. If that Iowa loss was so bad the committee should have kept OSU around 12th or 13th.

I'm not pissed that we didn't get in. Well I am but it's something I could get over. I'm more pissed that the committee's logic changes week to week and they can't get their story straight. The committee could have made this easy on themselves and they blew it.

 

[NFBuck]

Honestly, to me it's as simple as this. Based on the eye test, even if Alabama isn't that great the committee can probably trust them to not embarrass them for choosing them by completely [Mark May]ting the bed and killing themselves with idiotic mistakes like blown coverages, stupid penalties, and horrifically incomprehensible turnovers. I can't say the same for OSU, even if OSU's ceiling may well be higher than 'Bama's, and if I can't then I don't see why the committee would.

This team made its own bed and can lie in it. How they respond for the bowl game will play a very large part in determining their legacy, at least to me.

That said, while I'm disgusted by their on-field stupidity and inconsistency, I'm impressed by their resilience and proud and pleased that they won the conference, beat the rival (again) and the other three usual conference thorns in the side as well.

This right here.

 

[ochre]

How is Wisconsin's resume substantively different than Alabama's?

 

[Jake]

It has made it worse in my opinion than the BCS. Absolutely has to be a 6-8 team playoff with all Conference Champs in.

Not sure how 4 teams is worse than 2 teams when you favor 6-8 teams.

People are complaining about 2 teams from one conference being in the CFP. Have we forgotten the LSU-Alabama rematch for the BCS title?

Yeah, the BCS was awesome.

 

[shiloh]

On the bright side diehard Buckeye fans don't have to pick between two games to attend.

btw, there's only been one decisive CFP final in (3) years!

CJ * CJ * CJ

 

[dragurd]

How is Wisconsin's resume substantively different than Alabama's?

Their name is Wisconsin and not Alabama

 

[ZEKE103]

Let's switch positions here for.the sake of argument. Let's say Alabama just wrapped.up an 11-2 season winning the SEC. However, they took a 15 point home loss in September to a top five team, and got murdered at Mississippi State 55-24 in early November. tOSU, on the other hand, just went 11-1 but didn't win the B1G or its division (sound familiar?). The B1G was a bit down this year, so our best win is against a #15 Sparty team, and we lost a close game to a top-5 Ped Aggy.

Given the hypothetical scenario above, how many here would be upset if that 11-2 Bammer team that lost at home by double digits early on, and was pantsed by a mediocre Mississippi State was selected over 11-1, non conference champ Ohio State?

I'm not happy that we weren't selected, but I certainly can't argue against it.

I get what you’re saying but there is one thing missing. If roles were reversed and we lost like Bama did we would fall much further than they did. If they won like we did they would have been closer to 4 than we were. Bama would never have had to jump 8 to 4 like we did.

I’m just sick of the SEC bias all the time. That’s my big complaint. We don’t really deserve the playoff either but do more than Bama. The SEC is so overrated this year, and when OSU Wisky and PSU all win our bowl games and UGA and Bama lose (Aub plays UCf lol) then we’ll see but it will be too late.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

Look,.you can argue until.youre blue in the face; bottom line; don't lose to fucking Iowa by 31 points and they're in. tOSU has nobody to blame but themselves. No excuse for that game, and they're paying for it.

heck, capitalize on any of yesterday's numerous scoring opportunities and don't gift wisconsin 18 points and we're probably in.

three things killed ohio state:

1. losing 55-24 to a (edit) 7-5 team
2. failing multiple times to make a resounding statement last night
3. being embarrassed 31-0 in last year's playoff after receiving the benefit of the doubt

in regards to point #3, i guarantee you the committee was thinking this: "fool me once, shame on, shame on you; fool me, you can't get fooled again."

 

[Jake]

So if 2015 Iowa would have won the championship? It's bad when 75% of Bama's argument relies on being Bama and 25% on a bad loss invalidating 3 better wins

We also have two losses, not one, and got our pants pulled down last year after the committee gave us the benefit of the doubt despite not reaching the conference title game. Had we actually been competitive in last year's CFP, today may have turned out differently.

Yeah, each season is supposed to be independent of previous ones. But to think last year's flop didn't influence any humans in the room would be naive.

 

[shiloh]

Mentioned this before when all (5) bigs, plus the domers at 12-0, have their conference champion finish 13-0 then there might be a very slight chance for expansion.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

I get what you’re saying but there is one thing missing. If roles were reversed and we lost like Bama did we would fall much further than they did. If they won like we did they would have been closer to 4 than we were. Bama would never have had to jump 8 to 4 like we did.

I’m just sick of the SEC bias all the time. That’s my big complaint. We don’t really deserve the playoff either but do more than Bama. The SEC is so overrated this year, and when OSU Wisky and PSU all win our bowl games and UGA and Bama lose (Aub plays UCf lol) then we’ll see but it will be too late.

Regarding SEC... or even just Bama... bias....

There are two SEC teams in the playoffs. And, while I think it is entirely possible that the best two teams in the nation may both play in the same conference, or even the same division, what I saw from the SEC this year was not a very strong conference. That this year's SEC ends up with two teams in the playoffs just seems laughable to me.