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jking222222
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What am I missing? Why is the PAC getting so highly rated and why is nobody talking about it? Yes I hear all about the Big 12 being overrated and the SEC (I guess nobody even cares to mention the ACC), but it seems like the PAC is getting a bye from everyone. Is it because nobody sees their games? Did anyone watch Arizona last week against Washington? Terrible.
I think UCLA being the 2nd highest 2 loss team and Utah being the 2nd highest 3 loss (followed up by USC being the 3rd highest 3 loss) is completely off base. It props up an otherwise weak schedule for the league. Their OOC games this year were MSU at Oregon (good OOC game and big win for Oregon) and then nothing... USC lost to BC, ASU beat a perennial overhyped ND, Utah beat a terrible Michigan team, UCLA eeked out a win against Texas who got blown out the week before by BYU, WSU got beat by Rutgers, Stanford beat by ND, Washington beat terrible Illinois.
I'm not saying they scheduled poorly, but the way it ended up this year, they don't have a strong OOC record to justify them being considered the 2nd best conference and their lofty rankings.
Maybe my bias is shining through too much... just seems like nobody is scrutinizing them.
I think UCLA being the 2nd highest 2 loss team and Utah being the 2nd highest 3 loss (followed up by USC being the 3rd highest 3 loss) is completely off base. It props up an otherwise weak schedule for the league. Their OOC games this year were MSU at Oregon (good OOC game and big win for Oregon) and then nothing... USC lost to BC, ASU beat a perennial overhyped ND, Utah beat a terrible Michigan team, UCLA eeked out a win against Texas who got blown out the week before by BYU, WSU got beat by Rutgers, Stanford beat by ND, Washington beat terrible Illinois.
I'm not saying they scheduled poorly, but the way it ended up this year, they don't have a strong OOC record to justify them being considered the 2nd best conference and their lofty rankings.
Maybe my bias is shining through too much... just seems like nobody is scrutinizing them.
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dragurd
Head Coach
Not sure that helps much as it'll weaken Michigan St.
However I think the SEC is pretty consistently over ranked. Bama would be 2, Miss St 5th, Ole Miss should be about 12, Georgia about 14 Missouri is about right but Auburn should be ranked below Missouri at about 22 or so.
Main gripe is with Georgia and Auburn. Ole miss can be moved a spot or two essentially I think they are setting it up for Bama to be in conversation even if they lose by severely overrating Auburn and Georgia.
However I think the SEC is pretty consistently over ranked. Bama would be 2, Miss St 5th, Ole Miss should be about 12, Georgia about 14 Missouri is about right but Auburn should be ranked below Missouri at about 22 or so.
Main gripe is with Georgia and Auburn. Ole miss can be moved a spot or two essentially I think they are setting it up for Bama to be in conversation even if they lose by severely overrating Auburn and Georgia.
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SloopyHangOn
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"Game Control" is the metric by which you measure "style points" when executing the "eye test".
Now the bullshit has NUMBERS attached.
GC is what's killing FSU in the polls.
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It would help Ohio State more by keeping Minnesota ranked. Sparty will still be ranked where they are no matter what if they win.
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SloopyHangOn
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MSST's is 2, TCU's is 8, Auburn's is 16 and FSU's is 34.ESPN said:
That seems pretty fairly applied to me.
Ohio State's is 9 for reference.
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It's not just about winning out these next 3 games, it's about winning out convincingly.
The games don't have to be blow outs with the final score (look at the one TD win over Minny) but the team as a whole has to max perform to get love.
FSU fans have thoroughly convinced themselves that comeback wins equal a great team. Sure, once or twice against a quality team that is true. If the Bucks pull an FSU in the next two weeks and play like ass for 55 minutes, expect them to drop. We don't have the same luxury. The Bucks have to play non-stop for 60 full minutes worth impressive plays on all sides of the ball if we want in still.
The games don't have to be blow outs with the final score (look at the one TD win over Minny) but the team as a whole has to max perform to get love.
FSU fans have thoroughly convinced themselves that comeback wins equal a great team. Sure, once or twice against a quality team that is true. If the Bucks pull an FSU in the next two weeks and play like ass for 55 minutes, expect them to drop. We don't have the same luxury. The Bucks have to play non-stop for 60 full minutes worth impressive plays on all sides of the ball if we want in still.
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Wisconsin having the best possible record and ranking for the B1G CCG helps us the most. I'd like to see Minnesota beat the dog-shit out of Nebraska at Nebraska and move up to about 21 or 22, and then play Wisconsin really tough at Wisconsin and lose closely, which would likely keep them in the top 25. Wisconsin winning their last two games, including against a ranked Minnesota, would keep them ranked around 14-16 or maybe even higher. If Wisconsin loses to Minnesota, they likely drop out of the top 20 which hurts us in the B1G CCG...
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SloopyHangOn
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As much as I agree with all of this in theory... I don't think the difference in all the intricacies of schedule is going to make a huge difference if we just win and win convincingly.
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matcar
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Boom. Totally agree. At this point, unless we shit the bed or look REALLY poor in a shit win, we are in. The real concern in my mind is whether we take care of our business. Gotta eliminate the turnovers, shore up the Defense a bit AND still keep hammering on offense. That's a triple play and it ain't easy.
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UpNorth_Buckeye
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I'm pleasantly surprised with 6. I'd upgrade our chances of getting in from 20% to 40%, if we win out. Baylor won't jump back over us, or they may after they beat KSU but we'll jump back after we play Wisconsin. And 2 SEC teams will not get in. So that only leaves 1 team to jump. Gotta like those odds.
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