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2014 Preseason and Regular Season Polls

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SEREbuckeye said:
No matter how legit UCLA is, a 40 point loss at home is still a 40 point loss. Not a field goal, not a touchdown, were talking getting beat by 5 touchdowns! That in no way describes a #6 team in the nation. Especially when its in mid-season when the team is beginning to peak.
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ASU gets stomped by 35 points at home and still isn't getting punished nearly as much as Ohio State is for it's 14-point home loss. ASU was out of the game by halftime, while OSU was in it until virtually the very end. Yeah, UCLA is a highly-ranked 2-loss team and VaTech flat out sucks now, but OSU's loss was in the second game of the season with a completely green offense, while ASU's loss was the fifth game of the season with their offense at full strength, getting outscored 56-10 from early in the second quarter on. Any team that allows a 56-10 run against them--on their home turf, no less--has no business being in playoff consideration...
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Do you even pinball offense, Bro?
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SEREbuckeye said:
So lets say then Ohio State beats Va Tech and then loses to Michigan State by 40 points. Do you think the Buckeyes are deserving of a top ten ranking?
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Because it's clearly not about margin of victory/loss and more about the team as a whole, I can't fully answer that hypothetical. In theory, a 1-loss Ohio State absolutely deserves to be a top 10 team if all other variables are the same and Sparty's one loss was to Oregon, but that's making a lot of assumptions about how the teams are playing. I can't make a judgement about a team that would lose to Sparty by 40 because the team on the field is not that team.

Who you lose to, when you lose and how you lose are far less important than who you beat, when and how.

How similar are MSST, FSU and Marshall in your eyes? All 3 teams have the exact same record, but are clearly in 3 separate tiers based upon the qualities of their wins.
 
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SloopyHangOn said:
Because it's clearly not about margin of victory/loss and more about the team as a whole, I can't fully answer that hypothetical. In theory, a 1-loss Ohio State absolutely deserves to be a top 10 team if all other variables are the same and Sparty's one loss was to Oregon, but that's making a lot of assumptions about how the teams are playing. I can't make a judgement about a team that would lose to Sparty by 40 because the team on the field is not that team.

Who you lose to, when you lose and how you lose are far less important than who you beat, when and how.

How similar are MSST, FSU and Marshall in your eyes? All 3 teams have the exact same record, but are clearly in 3 separate tiers based upon the qualities of their wins.
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So if you go on the road and beat a top 10 team by double digits in a prime time game, that outweighs your loss(es)? Virginia Tech is glad to hear that and is excited at their chance to move into the top 10.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
ASU gets stomped by 35 points at home and still isn't getting punished nearly as much as Ohio State is for it's 14-point home loss. ASU was out of the game by halftime, while OSU was in it until virtually the very end. Yeah, UCLA is a highly-ranked 2-loss team and VaTech flat out sucks now, but OSU's loss was in the second game of the season with a completely green offense, while ASU's loss was the fifth game of the season with their offense at full strength, getting outscored 56-10 from early in the second quarter on. Any team that allows a 56-10 run against them--on their home turf, no less--has no business being in playoff consideration...
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Not arguing with you, but maybe the committee is also looking at wins. I don't know who Arizona State has beaten, other than Notre Dame. Did they beat Oregon? Maybe that was Arizona. USC? Is USC even any good? I haven't heard anything about them. But Ohio State has played exactly 1 team: Michigan State. And while you and I know that that game was an absolute beat-down, not justified by the 12-point differential at the end, maybe the committee doesn't see it that way. They just see 49-37. And who is Michigan State? They lost to Oregon, and beat Nebraska. But who else have they played? Ohio State's loss to Virginia Tech appears to be the concrete shoes for Ohio State, and beating Penn State in overtime and Michigan State by 12 appears to not be enough to break free from them. I'm of the opinion that every game should count, and Ohio State SHOULD have to do quite a bit to make up for that loss. But it's a ranking system, where even if you're sinking due to concrete shoes, someone else may be sinking faster, so you're ranked ahead of them.

I agree, though - Arizona State getting beat that badly should be affecting them a lot more than it seems to be. Throw Oregon in that boat - they were 20-point favorites and lost. Now they're #2?? Let's just follow Penn State when they leave for the NAIA. There's no corruption there.
 
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