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Have you honestly seen something this season to suggest that Ohio State is better than Oregon at this point? I have scarlet and gray goggles, too, but they must be a lower prescription.
Damn! FSU jumps us in the latest AP poll. F#@!
Pumpkin the AP poll. It's meaningless.
I hate when people pumpkin say this. It's not that you are wrong mind you, it's that it makes the fourletterword/coacheswhodon'twatchothergames poll seem so pumpkin important.
You expected something else? OSU just needs to keep winning and hope at least 2 of the 3 teams in front of us lose. We aren't getting any help from the B1G (or the perception of the B1G) so it's going to be up to OSU to change that perception in whichever bowl game they play in. To be honest if the season was over today I wouldn't have a problem playing Oregon in the Rose Bowl. Winning that game would change OSU's perception and hopefully show that the Pac12 isn't as good as people think.
Sure we are. Right now, the B1G has 4 ranked teams and a 1 loss Michigan State sitting at #26. The B1G is actually helping the Buckeyes right now. It was non-conference play by the B1G that hurt the conference perception.
I don't think playing Oregon would help OSU much, IMO. They have played and beat a "very fast" (according to ESPiN pundits) Oregon in a bowl recently. They also played and beat an SEC team (Arkansas) in a BCS Bowl recently which did nothing for our perception. The only thing that will save OSU at this point will be: conference teams winning in their bowl games this year (since they struggled OOC), Ohio State winning the NC (something that we haven't been able to do the last few tries), and the teams we play ending the year ranked.
Pumpkin the AP poll. It's meaningless.
I believe the AP poll influences the coaches poll. That is human nature.
Dude are you serious? I love tOSU but Oregon is a better team right now and it isn't really close. They manhandled a very good Washington team at their house. They have a QB in the lead for the Heisman race, they have the #2 offense in the country, etc. They took Cal apart and we didn't. They destroyed Tennessee who has played respectable football. What have we done that is impressive this season?No.....but I've seen something this season to suggest that Oregon is worse than Ohio State. It's not a matter of me wanting Ohio State to be ranked higher, it's me trying to be more even keeled with it. I posted this elsewhere on here:
3 of Oregon's opponents have winning records, and they're all only by one game. One of those 3 teams is an FCS team. Only one is in their conference. That one just lost three in a row as well.
Buffalo is 5-2, Wisconsin is 5-2, Northwestern is 4-3, Iowa is 4-3 Not only have we played more teams with a winning record, but those teams W-L record is a higher margin. And three of them are in conference. Northwesterns is our three in a row one.
He just layed it out pretty clearly. Tennessee?! Seriously?! Wisconsin and NW are greater than Washington and Tennessee.Dude are you serious? I love tOSU but Oregon is a better team right now and it isn't really close. They manhandled a very good Washington team at their house. They have a QB in the lead for the Heisman race, they have the #2 offense in the country, etc. They took Cal apart and we didn't. They destroyed Tennessee who has played respectable football. What have we done that is impressive this season?
Not saying we couldn't beat Oregon in a bowl game but right now at a neutral field I'd say the line would open Oregon -12 if I had to guess and would grow to -16 by kickoff.