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2013-2014 College Basketball (official thread)

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Remember all the bluster about this Kentucky team being the "best ever" and going 40-0 before the season? They even had the gall to make 40-0 t-shirts. Well, they lost again and stand at 21-8, 11-5. They've gone 1-4 against ranked teams. And this year's tOSU squad, which many of us consider to be average at best has gone 22-7, 3-3 vs. ranked teams against a harder schedule (http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team).

Calipari can recruit like nobody's business. But it's starting to look to me like he might have just lucked into a pretty special team two years ago. Because outside of that, given the star-power he has recruited to Lexington, it's really hard for me to say they haven't MASSIVELY underachieved.
 
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NFBuck said:
Calipari can recruit like nobody's business. But it's starting to look to me like he might have just lucked into a pretty special team two years ago, because outside of that, given the star-power he has recruited to Lexington, it's really hard for me to say they haven't MASSIVELY underachieved.
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He has arguably underachieved everywhere he has been.

...And once his recruiting does become somebody's business he leaves town.
 
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His entire rotation is comprised of 5* players, save one 4* (Willie Caulston-Stein). That's seven 5* players receiving regular minutes (including their entire starting lineup), and they've lost to the following teams:

* Baylor (19-10, 7th in the Big 12)
* Arkansas twice
* LSU (17-12, 7th in the SEC)
* South Carolina (10-17, 13th in the SEC)

Those teams haven't recruited seven 5* players between them in the last decade.

Does Calipari actually scout, or does he just hop on scout and rivals dot com and go after the highest rated guys sight unseen?
 
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Kentucky boards are a hoot:

This season has been lost for awhile. The twins are not comparable to Randle, Wiggins, Parker, or Gordon. Give me two of those other guys to go with Randle and see what kind of team UKs got.
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Waaaaaah! Our five stars aren't good enough! Give us somebody else's five stars and we'd win it all, dagnabbit!
 
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NFBuck said:
His entire rotation is comprised of 5* players, save one 4* (Willie Caulston-Stein). That's seven 5* players receiving regular minutes (including their entire starting lineup), and they've lost to the following teams:

* Baylor (19-10, 7th in the Big 12)
* Arkansas twice
* LSU (17-12, 7th in the SEC)
* South Carolina (10-17, 13th in the SEC)

Those teams haven't recruited seven 5* players between them in the last decade.

Does Calipari actually scout, or does he just hop on scout and rivals dot com and go after the highest rated guys sight unseen?
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Baylor got some five star a couple years ago... Holy crop just looked they had 1 5* from 2010 to 2012. Clearly there are a crapton more basketball 5*s than football
 
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Jake said:
Scheduling anomalies are going to be the norm in the age of super conferences so it will "cheapen" a lot of conference titles. Get used to it.

Virginia just beat Syracuse by 19 to clinch their first ACC title in 30 years.
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I wouldn't take much from that margin. Unusual of Syracuse to not have Grant out there in the second half, and Ennis got on the bench with foul trouble as well - they aren't a team with quality depth this year.
 
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KY is a team that is very young and in my opinion the freshman class this year is below average in terms of the quality of players after the top 2 or 3. Even the top freshmen are flawed, some in terms of poor defensive technique/effort, others lacking in skill development and strength. There isn't a player having a freshman impact like Anthony Davis did this year. The schools that are relying heavily on a number of freshmen aren't quite meeting expectations (Kansas is ranked highly but you could argue about whether they truly deserve their ranking since they have suffered a number of losses). KY has a handful of the better freshmen out there but they are as good an example as any about how the 2013 recruiting class nationally hasn't been particularly strong. For KY, their success or lack thereof this season was contingent on the freshmen coming in and dominating and clearly they are not quite at the level that they need to be for that to happen. KY is either not paying enough attention to detail defensively or not working hard enough on defense, and they're also not executing offensively the way they would need to be in order to reach their potential as a team. It's not going to happen for KY this year but depending on how many of these guys come back, and combined with another good recruiting class, they could show significant improvement as a team next season.

I think clearly KY has been a flop both this season and last season. They were way overrated this year just like last year - it was shameful that the media fell head over heels for that team and made them preseason #1 when they had been in the NIT last season.

As far as Calipari goes, he has made his bed with all these freshmen and trying to perpetuate the 1 & done cycle, and he now he has to lie in it. He chose this route when he could pick almost any players to add to his team, and there's no real excuse for having such a disappointing performance when you can literally get anybody you want. No doubt this past couple of years has taken the bloom off the rose there. But it's gradually going to be slowing down the more multi-year players he gets - you could argue that his 2014 class is an example of it slowing already since only 1 top-10 prospect is in it - and eventually he's going to have to build a team like everybody else and not recycle freshmen every year.
 
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I hate to even talk about that guy but TV Ted is lucky that he did not get cold cocked by Cronin. He really crossed the line and I would not be surprised if some conferences do not let him have games. I think I also heard that earlier this week he had a fan ejected from a game and the fan did not even swear at him. I think TV Ted is getting a little too big for his britches. I wish he would have gotten in Bob Knight's face like that back when Knight was still coaching. Bob would have taken care of him.
 
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I wouldn't take much from that margin. Unusual of Syracuse to not have Grant out there in the second half, and Ennis got on the bench with foul trouble as well - they aren't a team with quality depth this year.
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I thought you would that from your prior comments regarding Virginia. Maybe that margin did not indicate the true score but Virginia is a very good basketball team and I do not care about their loss to Tennessee way earlier in the year.
 
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LitlBuck said:
I thought you would that from your prior comments regarding Virginia. Maybe that margin did not indicate the true score but Virginia is a very good basketball team and I do not care about their loss to Tennessee way earlier in the year.
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Was Virginia missing any players due to injury against UT? Sorry, just don't trust them as going particularly far in the tourney this year. I saw that they avoided playing almost all of the top-7 in the ACC twice this season, that is a remarkable stroke of scheduling luck.
 
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Hearing talking heads debate Wichita State as a one seed cracks me up. They act like they just came out of nowhere. WSU was a Final Four team last year - we know all too well - and they're undefeated this season. If it said "Kansas" or "Duke" on the front of their jerseys they'd be the number one overall seed.
 
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Everything fell in place for Kentucky in 2012. Anthony Davis and MKG were 2 special talents that happen to come in at the same time then you had the NBA lockout looming pushing Terrance Jones and Lamb back to them when normally they would have been 1 and done. Add in a solid PG in Teague and an experienced Senior in Miller you now had 3 guys with Final Four experience to go along with the 2 stud freshman and Teague.

The team they have now is nothing but freshman basically 80% of their scoring comes from them and they have no guys coming back with NCAA tournament experience that play much and only WCS who has ins't a freshman.

There will not be another team in Kentucky like that 2012 team that was the team that could have gone 40-0 losing on a last second shot at Indiana by 1 and then losing only 1 other game that was tied with about 5 mins left in the SEC championship game. They cruised through the NCAA tournament not really challenged that year.

This year's team is a mess the coach and bench cost them 6 points last night with 3 tech's which made a big difference in the end. This year's team was supposed to have the best recruiting class of all time......they may end up a 6-8 seed just like Ohio State pretty crappy year for both teams.
 
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DZ83CK said:
Was Virginia missing any players due to injury against UT? Sorry, just don't trust them as going particularly far in the tourney this year. I saw that they avoided playing almost all of the top-7 in the ACC twice this season, that is a remarkable stroke of scheduling luck.
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if they shoot the way they did in the 2nd half of the Syracuse game, I don't know if I could pick against them for at least the F4. that's the only game I've seen of theirs, though....so who knows if they shoot like that all the time.
 
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