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2013-14 Bowl Games Open Thread

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kujirakira said:
People can talk about how "rooting against" any teams in the B10 will lead to us getting left out of the playoff in the future.. but thing is, who I root for has no impact on the game.
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Nobody believes that how somebody roots has any impact on a game.

I, personally, just shake my head and can't fathom how people can root for an outcome that could (and right now likely would) directly negatively impact Ohio State's interests to the point of being left out of NC game or playoff. It's almost as though some are trying too hard. They feel a need to wear their hatred of Michigan on their sleeve as almost more important than their love of Ohio State.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Nobody believes that how somebody roots has any impact on a game.

I, personally, just shake my head and can't fathom how people can root for an outcome that could (and right now likely would) directly negatively impact Ohio State's interests to the point of being left out of NC game or playoff. It's almost as though some are trying too hard. They feel a need to wear their hatred of Michigan on their sleeve as almost more important than their love of Ohio State.
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If it doesn't matter how we root, then why would it matter if we rooted indirectly against our own best interest? I confuse :confused:
 
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BayBuck said:
Hmm, I wonder which is better for the B1G bottom line... Prime-time bowl schedule against top-shelf opponents, or a bowl lineup full of cream-puffs?
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I don't give a rats ass about a few hundred thousand per bowl over 7-8 non-BCS bowls getting split 12 ways (or 14 next year.)
I care about how this schedule negatively affects the Conference Champion's chances of getting into the playoffs; in the obvious hopes that Ohio State will be that champion more often than not.

ORD_Buckeye said:
Nobody believes that how somebody roots has any impact on a game.

I, personally, just shake my head and can't fathom how people can root for an outcome that could (and right now likely would) directly negatively impact Ohio State's interests to the point of being left out of NC game or playoff. It's almost as though some are trying too hard. They feel a need to wear their hatred of Michigan on their sleeve as almost more important than their love of Ohio State.
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I'm an opportunist. If scUM loses by 100 points, I'm going to thoroughly enjoy it. If scUM lost on an improbable 57yd FG attempt returned for a TD in a last second added by questionable officiating, I'm going to thoroughly enjoy it.
If scUM returns to be the respected opponent that's supposed to be our perennial end-of-year measuring stick, I'll welcome the competition and increased rep for the Conference as a whole (and by extension Ohio State's rep when we win it).

My point is simply that, for as much as people talk about how scUM / Nebraska / PSU not living up to expectations has hurt us... and rooting against them is antithetical... it's ultimately meaningless.
The B10 bowl schedule, however, is something that does affect Ohio State very negatively. And even if those 3 got their acts together, it would still affect us.
The pundits will still see the PAC, B12, and ACC with better bowl records year-in year-out ... it doesn't matter that those records are padded with pushovers. There's a certain predominant "logic" that any bowl opponent is a "quality opponent". It doesn't matter that they're a 7-6 MWC school.
I made the following to flesh out my point... but it seems the B12 has just as difficult of a schedule. The ACC's schedule is actually far more difficult that usual b/c they rarely get a 2nd team in the BCS and they would normally only be playing 2 SEC and 1 B10 school. Even so, it looks pretty cake to me... they draw all the Power Conference tie-ins from the middle of the table and come in 2nd with Mid Majors only to the PAC.

P12 Bowl Schedule
Colorado State (MWC 5-3)
Boise State (MWC 6-2)
Fresno State (MWC 7-1)
BYU (Indy 8-4, 2-4 against BCS conf.)

Boston College (ACC 4-4)
Virginia Tech (ACC 5-3)
Texas Tech (B12 4-5)
Texas (B12 7-2)
Michigan State (B10 9-0)


ACC Bowl Schedule
Marshall (CUSA 7-1)
Cincy (Big Easy 6-2)
Louisville (Big Easy 7-1)

Notre Dame (Indy 8-4, 4-4 against BCS conf.)
Arizona (PAC 4-5)
UCLA (PAC 6-3)
Minnesota (B10 4-4)
Ohio State (B10 8-1)
Ole Miss (SEC 3-5)
TAMU (SEC 4-4)
Auburn (SEC 8-1)



SEC Bowl Schedule
Rice (CUSA 7-1)
Houston (Big Easy 5-3)

Georgia Tech (ACC 5-3)
Duke (ACC 6-3)
FSU (ACC 9-0)
Nebraska (B10 5-3)
Iowa (B10 5-3)
Wisconsin (B10 6-2)
Oklahoma (B12 7-2)
Oklahoma State (B12 7-2)


B12 Bowl Schedule
UCF (Big Easy 8-1)

Michigan (B10 3-5)
Oregon (PAC 7-2)
ASU (PAC 8-2)
Alabama (SEC 7-1)
Missouri (SEC 7-2)


B10 Bowl Schedule
Syracuse (ACC 4-4) vs Minnesota (4-4)
Clemson (ACC 7-1) vs Good Guys (8-1)
Kansas State (B12 5-3) vs scUM (3-5)
Stanford (PAC 8-2) vs MSU (9-0)
Georgia (SEC 5-3) vs Neb (5-3)
LSU (SEC 5-3) vs Iowa (5-3)
S. Carolina (SEC 6-2) vs Wiscy (6-2)
 
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kujirakira said:
I don't give a rats ass about a few hundred thousand per bowl over 7-8 non-BCS bowls getting split 12 ways (or 14 next year.)
I care about how this schedule negatively affects the Conference Champion's chances of getting into the playoffs; in the obvious hopes that Ohio State will be that champion more often than not.
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We're not talking about a few hundred thousand per bowl, we're talking millions. That before we take into account the long term financial benefits of having millions of people watching Ohio State, TSUN, Penn State & Nebraska play Georgia, LSU, Alabama etc rather than crickets watching those same B1G Teams playing Cincinnati, Houston & UCF.

A bowl lineup that nobody wants to watch will do far more long term damage to the B1G than the circle jerk human centipede of internet mouth breathers who think the B1G is weak because South Carolina squeaked by TSUN when it got bumped up two slots because Ohio State & PSU were bowl ineligible.

That being said if you're going to whinge about the potential effects of the B1G bowl lineup on the playoffs, you should probably be focusing on the actual bowl line up that will be in place at the time rather than the one that sunsets after this year.
 
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Muck said:
We're not talking about a few hundred thousand per bowl, we're talking millions. That before we take into account the long term financial benefits of having millions of people watching Ohio State, TSUN, Penn State & Nebraska play Georgia, LSU, Alabama etc rather than crickets watching those same B1G Teams playing Cincinnati, Houston & UCF.

A bowl lineup that nobody wants to watch will do far more long term damage to the B1G than the circle jerk human centipede of internet mouth breathers who think the B1G is weak because South Carolina squeaked by TSUN when it got bumped up two slots because Ohio State & PSU were bowl ineligible.

That being said if you're going to whinge about the potential effects of the B1G bowl lineup on the playoffs, you should probably be focusing on the actual bowl line up that will be in place at the time rather than the one that sunsets after this year.
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The differences in payouts for the low level bowls is in the $100,000 range.
Do you honestly think the ratings for Michigan - Kansas State would be significantly lower if it was Michigan - Houston ?? I'm not even sure if I should entertain that.
The problem isn't the opinions of internet idiots. It's the "opinion" of media and the few voices on the Playoff council; which will be influenced by the "opinions" being thrown around in the media.
 
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