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2012 Offense Discussion

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Magua;2221072; said:
Carried over from the Doran Grant thread...





Without going back and watching all of his interceptions, I don't recall any of them showcasing a great play on his individual part. If I recall I think they're all off tipped passes that fell right to him, or absolutely horrendous throws by the QB. I think in his case it's a pretty overrated stat considering Roby is a much better cover corner and I'm not sure if he even has 1 int.

Howard, overall, can be considered a good corner and I have no quarrel with that. But, this is Ohio State and IMO he hasn't played as well as an OSU CB should. Yeah I may be overreacting and spoiled due to years of having GREAT DB's but why should we get complacent? I just cannot stand watching him run by a ball carrier, reach out with his hands, grab jersey, and the guy runs right through it over and over and over. Every one on here keeps blaming the coaches for poor tackling and that is fine, but if a player isn't making tackles part of your responsibility as a coach is to either coach that player up or FIND SOMEONE ELSE WHO WILL TACKLE. Playing defensive back isn't all about interceptions, especially when most of the yardage we have given up as a defense is due to simply missing a gazillion tackles every week. Maybe I am in the minority here but I wouldn't mind seeing Doran Grant get a shot at starting over Howard when Roby comes back after how he played this past week.
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Probably fit better in Doran's thread than it does in the "2012 Offense Discussion" thread. :p
 
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BuckeyeSoldier;2221056; said:
Ill just say that I have enough faith in Braxton that if he sees the defense with 15 guys on the field at the same time to know he can quick snap the ball for a free 5 yards.
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Hard for him to see the defensive subs coming in from the sideline oppositie of the one he's looking at for the signals...he's focused on getting the play call.


jlb1705;2221066; said:
M*ch*g*n State had :15 seconds to deliver a proper substitution, the play was on their side of the field, and they had control of the snap:
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Two completely different scenarios, not to mention that the MSU coaches clusterfucked that up to no end.

I'll have the "hot substitutions" game-planned, in other words, any key players that I'll plan on rotating will know that when the offense stands up and looks to their sideline for a play, they need to glance back to me to see if they need to come off the field and I'll also have their replacements set to sprint out there.

This doesn't mean that I'll be swapping out defenders every single time the offense stands up and looks to the sideline for the play call...it's just that I'll be able to take advantage of that should the need arise.
 
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Looking at signals, noticing the defenders are trying to sub, and the snapping the ball would take approximately 3-5 seconds at most. The offensive players are already in position.

There are maybe three defenders (CB, safety, maybe LB) that could sprint off the field anywhere near 3-5 seconds. Let alone getting to their designated spots after a dead sprint; now they have to make a play. The CB and S are generally positions that don't sub that often, so any advantage might be getting lucky enough to switch a LB for another CB/S. That's only if the stacked WR's are nearest your sideline.

There is far too much risk and not enough gained, in my opinion, to attempt it. Besides, it takes one time pulling it off and the offense will be wise to it. Like has been said, I'd think noticing a few extra defenders would lead to an immediate adjustment, Braxton still has peripheral vision to notice that.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2216403; said:
I've yet to see the offense take less than about 8-10 seconds looking over to the sidelines, when they do. If I'm an opposing DC, I'm going to check the time between the point when the offense suspends the hurry-up to look to the sideline for the play and the time they resume the play and start making the resulting adjustments. If nearly every instance is 8-10 seconds like it seems, then I'm having my replacements ready on the sidelines to send in the split second Miller stands upright and look to the sideline, and I'd keep doing that until Miller stops looking to the sideline for plays.
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We haven't seen the pace at which they ran plays in Spring Game. If the coaches are holding anything back, it's this.
 
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Poe McKnoe;2221117; said:
We haven't seen the pace at which they ran plays in Spring Game. If the coaches are holding anything back, it's this.
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Just go rapid fire and get the defenses on their heels. Make them adjust to you and I think adjusting is tough to do when an offense is running plays so quickly.

Guess you need to be able to execute though in order to run an offense at the speed of say Oregon. Which is definatley hit or miss.
 
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You still need first downs. It would be one thing if we see drives with two or three first downs and then a punt. Instead it's feast or famine right now. A three and out or a touchdown drive. Even the touchdown drives generally take just a few plays (which I am not complaining about).
 
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The last time the Buckeyes scored that many points against a conference opponent, neither I nor Chris Carter nor Chris Spielman had ever set foot in an Ohio State classroom.

69 points against Minnesota in 1983 (Gophers scored 18)
 
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scarletngray;2229589; said:
As long as Braxton Miller is healthy we have a chance to score every time we have the ball. He is the most exciting player to hit the field in Columbus since Ted Ginn Jr.

:osu:
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A certain guy named Terrelle Pryor would argue that statement. Hate him for the tattoo scandal or not, the kid made plenty of great plays while at osu
 
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