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2012 Offense Discussion

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Very fun to watch this offense truck people. The amazing thing is that they still have not played at a high level for 4 qtrs. I hope they are saving it for scUM. They can take a qtr off and still score 60. That's scary.

The biggest sign Tressel (God bless him) and Bollman (no comment) have moved on: only 2 FG's this year and more TD's than punts. I'd say that constitutes a different offensive philosophy.

The downside is that our quick scoring offense has something to do with our struggles on defense. No coincidence that when we were going 3 and out in the first qtr we gave up 17. 21 over the other 3 qtrs.

I told my buddy at the beginning of the year that the spread was hard on defenses and that we might have to get used to winning some games 46-31 and he was like, "You are out of your mind." Sat night after Neb scored their last TD he texted me: "I see what you mean now."
 
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A good defense makes stops no matter what.

The 06, 08 & 09 UF defensive squads we're very good and
they played along-side Meyer's offense(s). Especially the two
later units that produced at very high levels, consistently.
 
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Buckeneye;2231136; said:
A good defense makes stops no matter what.

The 06, 08 & 09 UF defensive squads we're very good and
they played along-side Meyer's offense(s). Especially the two
later units that produced at very high levels, consistently.
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Auburns NC year had a great defense too and they ran the spread as well. Texas had the same in 05
 
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Buckeneye;2231136; said:
A good defense makes stops no matter what.

The 06, 08 & 09 UF defensive squads we're very good and
they played along-side Meyer's offense(s). Especially the two
later units that produced at very high levels, consistently.
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Though I agree with the bolded, those teams didn't run the hurry-up offense.
 
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Buckeneye;2231136; said:
A good defense makes stops no matter what.

The 06, 08 & 09 UF defensive squads we're very good and
they played along-side Meyer's offense(s). Especially the two
later units that produced at very high levels, consistently.
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I am not so sure of that...

As others have said, a quick-tempo offense that sputters often will make it vastly more difficult for the defense to remain stout. Time of possession is a key factor in this issue. In 6 games this year, OSU has averaged 29 minutes, 2 seconds per game.

Going further than that, break down the TOP:

When Ohio State is leading in Time of Possession, opponents have scored an average of 14 points per game.

When Ohio State is losing in Time of Possession, opponents have scored an average of 27 points per game.

I am sure the defense is under-achieving and sub-par for OSU, no doubt. However, if the offense is sputtering and having a lot of quick 3-and-outs, that will cause problems for the defense. As others made mention of the Nebraska game - we held them far better when our offense was effective, than when we were going no where on offense.

So as Meyer's offense improves (and it has, obviously), the defense should also see some improvements, outside of simply learning to tackle and the like.
 
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Mrstickball;2231454; said:
I am not so sure of that...

As others have said, a quick-tempo offense that sputters often will make it vastly more difficult for the defense to remain stout. Time of possession is a key factor in this issue. In 6 games this year, OSU has averaged 29 minutes, 2 seconds per game.

Going further than that, break down the TOP:

When Ohio State is leading in Time of Possession, opponents have scored an average of 14 points per game.

When Ohio State is losing in Time of Possession, opponents have scored an average of 27 points per game.

I am sure the defense is under-achieving and sub-par for OSU, no doubt. However, if the offense is sputtering and having a lot of quick 3-and-outs, that will cause problems for the defense. As others made mention of the Nebraska game - we held them far better when our offense was effective, than when we were going no where on offense.

So as Meyer's offense improves (and it has, obviously), the defense should also see some improvements, outside of simply learning to tackle and the like.
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How many times have we actually gone in hurry up mode? I'd actually be interested in knowing what the average time left on the play clock is for Ohio State this year.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass or anything but I don't think our three and outs are any quicker than anyone else in college football. We seem to run a few consecutively together all too often, and that does hurt.

As far as TOP goes..It's really a garbage stat as far as I can tell at this point. I mean Cal had the ball 10 minutes more than us. UAB was close to 8 minutes. Cal scored 28 and UAB only scored 15. Then you have Nebraska that had less TOP (around 4 minutes) than both of them yet scored more than they both did.

What I'd like to see our offense do is get at least one first down every drive, or at the very least get to our 45 yard line every drive. Until the Nebraska game it seemed to me that our opponents have had some pretty good starting field position. Don't have any stats to back that up or anything. I just remember seeing part of the Block O at the beginning of way too many opponents drives.
 
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HorseshoeFetish;2231496; said:
How many times have we actually gone in hurry up mode? I'd actually be interested in knowing what the average time left on the play clock is for Ohio State this year.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass or anything but I don't think our three and outs are any quicker than anyone else in college football. We seem to run a few consecutively together all too often, and that does hurt.

As far as TOP goes..It's really a garbage stat as far as I can tell at this point. I mean Cal had the ball 10 minutes more than us. UAB was close to 8 minutes. Cal scored 28 and UAB only scored 15. Then you have Nebraska that had less TOP (around 4 minutes) than both of them yet scored more than they both did.

What I'd like to see our offense do is get at least one first down every drive, or at the very least get to our 45 yard line every drive. Until the Nebraska game it seemed to me that our opponents have had some pretty good starting field position. Don't have any stats to back that up or anything. I just remember seeing part of the Block O at the beginning of way too many opponents drives.
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The official stats have Nebraska with 4 more minutes than OSU, not the other way around.
 
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HorseshoeFetish;2231496; said:
How many times have we actually gone in hurry up mode? I'd actually be interested in knowing what the average time left on the play clock is for Ohio State this year.

I'm not trying to be a smart ass or anything but I don't think our three and outs are any quicker than anyone else in college football. We seem to run a few consecutively together all too often, and that does hurt.
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I do agree the Offense isn't always playing up-tempo. Am I crazy, or does the Offense seem to run more efficiently when they are running up-tempo? Of course, it helps when Braxton gets more comfortable which seems to happen after he runs the ball a few times.
 
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