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2011 TSUN news

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ChisAto;1855417; said:
When you state "You continue to blame other fans," that implies that I've done it before. I'm not here to defend Rich Rod, he dug his own grave with his subpar defenses, lack of attention to detail, and constant teases of potential without actual production. That's said and done, and over with.

I was simply stating that the fan division ON TOP of that, or the fact that plenty of fans gave him no shot to succeed before he even took the job (Like fans are doing right now with Hoke) is something that needs to stop, or Hoke is gonna end up being hurt just as much.
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Judging by the current blogosphere/message board climate, he's not off to a good start...
 
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NFBuck;1855420; said:
Judging by the current blogosphere/message board climate, he's not off to a good start...
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I don't think it was message board banter that undermined RR. The divisions within the UM administration and alumni were vicious and extremely damaging to RR. Regardless, I seriously doubt he would have had long term success, given his inability or unwillingness to develop a defense. But to me, the bigger black eye on Michigan is how he was undermined from within.

I suspect that will not be the case with Hoke.
 
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BuckeyeBill;1855450[B said:
;]I don't think it was message board banter that undermined RR. The divisions within the UM administration and alumni were vicious and extremely damaging to RR.[/B] Regardless, I seriously doubt he would have had long term success, given his inability or unwillingness to develop a defense. But to me, the bigger black eye on Michigan is how he was undermined from within.

I suspect that will not be the case with Hoke.
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The messageboards/blogosphere are usually a good indicator of where the admin/alums are. Not saying it's like that now, but it typically is. They got their "m*ch*g*n man"...wait, coaching DL there for a few years is all it takes? He's a Ball State alum...whatever, they got him. Thing is, I think when they were saying "m*ch*g*n man", they meant Harbaugh.
 
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osugrad21;1855485; said:
Buzz is that Tate did not attend the team meeting today.

If Tate transfers and DRob leaves as rumored...that puts it all on Gardner for next season.
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NFBuck;1855464; said:
The messageboards/blogosphere are usually a good indicator of where the admin/alums are. Not saying it's like that now, but it typically is. They got their "m*ch*g*n man"...wait, coaching DL there for a few years is all it takes? He's a Ball State alum...whatever, they got him. Thing is, I think when they were saying "m*ch*g*n man", they meant Harbaugh.
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To be fair their ultimate Michigan man went to Miami and his first and last coaching position as an assistant was at Ohio State.

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Maybe he is the penultimate Michigan man?
 
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Props to myself. When many of you called for Rich Rod to be saved, I went on record as stating that a better scenario was to have RR fired, then have Harbag tell TSUN to f-off. Well, that happened, but even better, The Hat ALSO told TSUN to pound sand. And now they can have Hoke and perhaps no DRob. I feel vindicated by TSUNs utter failure.

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heisman;1855374; said:
First of all, it's funny because the tsun fanbase wants nothing to do with him and are in meltdown mode. He also has a losing record in his coaching career, which probably doesn't help him when it comes to gaining their support. Personally, I don't think it is a bad hire, but he has a daunting task ahead of him with unrealistic expectations and no fan support. Good luck to him.
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it's funny because he's fat
 
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ChisAto;1855417; said:
I was simply stating that the fan division ON TOP of that, or the fact that plenty of fans gave him no shot to succeed before he even took the job (Like fans are doing right now with Hoke) is something that needs to stop, or Hoke is gonna end up being hurt just as much.
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If Rodriguez led the team to some successful seasons instead of three of the worst in the history of your program I am sure the people that didn't like the hire would have come around eventually.

Winning solves everything, no matter who the coach is or how large a segment of the fan base doesn't like them.
 
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Al Borges reportedly following Ogre to ann arbor as his OC. Borges is a pretty well repsected coach and from what I gather, relies mainly on West Coast principles on offense. His notable stops in the past were late-90's UCLA and mid-00's Auburn (not the current spread variation). Of course, now they have to get the kind of kids in they need to run that style of offense.

My IMO, he's a good coordinator, not "modern" or "hip". He was a hot name nearly a decade ago, now bounces more from job to job. Runs a fairly balanced attack, but relies on precision west coast offense stuff. No more 6-8 yard dumpoffs for hairlice to pad his numbers. Really have to wonder how this impacts him sticking around. Gardner may be a good fit for his style.

Seems like most scUM fans were hoping/expecting them to go out and find another spread guy, but instead, they found an OC that's cut from the same cloth as Hoak...a "safe" hire...nothing flashy. Beav definately isn't getting his oregon dream.

http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-f...rges-expected-to-join-brady-hoke-at-michigan/
 
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