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Bringing a new coach into a program will certainly inflate numbers, but I think the type of net Rich was casting was one of the many reasons he got fired. Just for comparisons sake, Touch the Banner indicates that Michigan offered 189 prospects this year compared to 190 a year ago. It also has a breakdown of where Michigan offerees ended up signing. It blows my mind just how far UM has fallen. In my IMO, the cleanup effort will be closer to Faust and ND (20+ years) than Callahan and Nebraska (5 years).
 
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shiznit7;1871640; said:
Bringing a new coach into a program will certainly inflate numbers, but I think the type of net Rich was casting was one of the many reasons he got fired. Just for comparisons sake, Touch the Banner indicates that Michigan offered 189 prospects this year compared to 190 a year ago. It also has a breakdown of where Michigan offerees ended up signing. It blows my mind just how far UM has fallen. In my IMO, the cleanup effort will be closer to Faust and ND (20+ years) than Callahan and Nebraska (5 years).
Not sure where you're going with this, ND rebounded fairly quickly after the Faust error. ND bottomed out in November 1985. Lou Holtz took over the next year, went 5-6 and 8-4 in '86-'87 then won a National Title in his 3rd year. They've been floundering since Bob Davie took over following Lou. It is an interesting parallel going on though. Holtz took over after Faust had run ND into the ground. ND was in pretty mediocre shape when Lou left in late '96 to be replaced by Bob Davie...which began their sustained period of ineptitude. The question for scUM is, is Hoke more Lou Holtz, or more Ty Willingham. Personally, I think he's somewhere in between.
 
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NFBuck;1871647; said:
Not sure where you're going with this, ND rebounded fairly quickly after the Faust error. ND bottomed out in November 1985. Lou Holtz took over the next year, went 5-6 and 8-4 in '86-'87 then won a National Title in his 3rd year. They've been floundering since Bob Davie took over following Lou. It is an interesting parallel going on though. Holtz took over after Faust had run ND into the ground. ND was in pretty mediocre shape when Lou left in late '96 to be replaced by Bob Davie...which began their sustained period of ineptitude. The question for scUM is, is Hoke more Lou Holtz, or more Ty Willingham. Personally, I think he's somewhere in between.

My bad, honestly a brain fart. You're right about Davie. Still a 14 year recovery... Hoke is a step in the right direction but I don't see sustained winning for at least 5 years.
 
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shiznit7;1871640; said:


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("smell the glove" for those of you who don't follow Spinal Tap)
 
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Them: Great news! Didn't need him anyhow... One more 'ship for next year! w00T!!!

Reality: Wow... just wow.
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RE: Twitter rumor

Oh well.

Opens up a spot on the roster ... the coaches may have not been sold on him, as many of us weren't really sold on him, either.
Not that they're predictable or anything. :lol:
 
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Them: Great news! Didn't need him anyhow... One more 'ship for next year! w00T!!!

Reality: Wow... just wow.

Well Michigan already has several young corner backs on the team. If he was a stand out then yes it could have hurt. Michigan has recruited several d-backs the past two years so his transfer won't be significant. If it was a dt or de, then yeah that would have really hurt. Next year Michigan needs to stock up on the d-line and linebackers. It also helps that Ohio is loaded with high school players next year that are good on the d-line. OSU can't get them all.
 
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Well Michigan already has several young corner backs on the team. If he was a stand out then yes it could have hurt. Michigan has recruited several d-backs the past two years so his transfer won't be significant. If it was a dt or de, then yeah that would have really hurt. Next year Michigan needs to stock up on the d-line and linebackers. It also helps that Ohio is loaded with high school players next year that are good on the d-line. OSU can't get them all.

It's no longer if not going to OSU, go to Michigan. Michigan has to know compete with Michigan St., Nebraska, Notre Dame, as well as more SEC coming into Ohio.
 
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