2010 TSUN arguments & shenanigans (in-season)

[Wingate1217]

They won't. It's the same as the past two seasons, just magnified this year because of so many long scores. They will be ground down to stubs in the next couple of weeks.

Their defense was on the field 41+ minutes on Saturday. If they trend continues we could score 80 points against them in the second half. Those boys will be tired coming into the 'Shoe and when the emotion wears off and reality sets in it will not be pretty for Scum's "D"

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

TP by contrast has run into the 98th(Marshall), 12th (Miami), 37th (Illini), 40th (Ohio), and 112th (E. Scum) for an average of 60 (where UTEP curently resides).

Denard's average against FBS defenses is an outstanding 87 (Ball St.) I didn't factor in UMass's defense in there.....

Throw out the each programs worst total defense opponent and OSU drops to 48th (were Colorado curently resides), and Scum is 76 (Northwestern).

Not to suggest that any of the defense's UM has faced have been even remotely decent, but the numbers are a bit skewed by the fact that UM's defense is soooo bad that they have only had one blowout in 5 games, whereas OSU has had 3 blowouts where the starters sit at least the 4th quarter. If TP and crew were going all out for 3.5-4 quarters (like Shoelace and co. have been), certainly the defenses OSU has faced would look even worse.

 

[MightbeaBuck]

I can't see how they will make it to Michigan week with anything left in the tank defensively.

I don't understand. This sentence implies that there was something in the tank to start with. :tongue2:

 

[TDunk]

I'm really shocked they haven't had more injuries on defense. Considering the number of plays run against them so far with their lack of depth at pretty much every position, I can't see how they will make it to Michigan week with anything left in the tank defensively.

Isn't every week for them michigan week???

 

[Beaver]

You can't make this stuff up, unless you have a lot of experience

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=162&f=1088&t=6475300

I think a Spread Team develops in a different way than a traditional team, and we're still not used to that.
I think a great spread program wants to get where they can score 50-60 a game -- THATs the #1 emphasis of the program, and so that's what is emphasized (not exclusively of course, but majority-ely) in practice as well. And once they can do that ... well, that's deadly 13 times a year.

Me personally, I finally realized that watching Oregon-Stanford, how in the end spread-Oregon just ran away from them and traditional-Stanford couldn't keep up.

Now, Oregon is a couple years ahead of U-M in where their program is developmentally ... and, personally, I think Oregon beats 'Bama right now (and I don't even want to talk about overrated-OSU) ... but Oregon doesn't have Denard.

Two years from now (maybe even next year) ... the U-M D is still giving up 28-30 a game, and U-M just destroys 13 teams.

I have finally seen the light -- Spread Teams develop in a different way ... and in two years (or maybe next year) it'll change college FB, maybe forever.

You see, Oregon can't recruit the elite-elite kids that U-M can, nor could WVA of course ...

... you start putting elite kids with a Spread-Genius ... I just think it throws out the old conventional wisdom -- especially the traditional notion that defenses win championships ... that notion could be passe' in 2 more years.

It's kind've a Dr. Strangelove notion I know: "How I stopped worrying about D and learned to love the Spread ..."

This is an opinion blog BTW, what do YOU think?

of course no theory is fool-proof (remember, Dr. Strangelove was a fool) ... you have things like the "Oregon was starstruck" that interfere ... however in a rematch right now Oregon smashes the crap outta them

danimal1968 wrote: I buy your line of thinking, Tom. My only reservation is that that overrated-OSU team handled Oregon (which looked just as dominant for large parts of last year, too) in last year's Rose Bowl.

my point is that is evolving to a 4-unit game:
1. Offense
2. Offense
3. Special Teams
4. Defense

... kinda in that order

And, like I say, it's an IMO ... but of course I'm firmly-convinced in my own little mind, just as Dr Stranvelove was ...

 

[Merih]

This dude is full of it to the extreme maximum. Implosion by overanalysis...

...Michigan is 5-0, all against teams they were favored against. Think about it too much, and all of a sudden you forget the walkons and true freshman on the two-deep, the patchwork runningback situation, and the fact that they are entirely a one man show.

Oregon goes 3 deep at tailback, that's where they get their yards. Then the QB surprises you. All of Michigan's opponents know what's coming. They just were nowhere near good enough to stop it. Chip Kelly's spread is better (IMO) than RichRods. Chip's has beaten teams like USC, Stanford, Cal, etc. Rich Rod's was developed against Pitt, Syracuse, UC, UConn...etc.

The rational SCUM fans know who Rich Rod is. Going 3-9 and 5-7 was not all a part of a master plan to rule CFB. The past 3 recruiting classes were not all schemed out ahead of time in order to win a MNC. Hiring Greg Robinson was not Rich Rod saying "I don't need a defense."

Get a fucking grip on reality Beaver.

 

[NFBuck]

You can't make this stuff up, unless you have a lot of experience

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=162&f=1088&t=6475300

Best. Comedy. On. The. Internet.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I think a great spread program wants to get where they can score 50-60 a game -- THATs the #1 emphasis of the program

Show me any program in the history of college football that scored 50-60 a game. Even '95 Nebraska had six games scoring under 50 points, including two games in the 30s...

 

[NFBuck]

Show me any program in the history of college football that scored 50-60 a game. Even '95 Nebraska had six games scoring under 50 points, including two games in the 30s...

He's a crackhead. Literally. Given his issues with the english language and grammar, and the shit he honestly believes, he has to have totally burnt his noodle out on crack-cocaine. No other explanation.

 

[Jaxbuck]

You can't make this stuff up, unless you have a lot of experience

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=162&f=1088&t=6475300

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[DaytonBuck]

I think I am going to be ill.

See warning on back of package for small children and RR. "Figurine may break if overused"

 

[BrutusBobcat]

Show me any program in the history of college football that scored 50-60 a game. Even '95 Nebraska had six games scoring under 50 points, including two games in the 30s...

Certainly not one of the major programs, but maybe the Houston teams with Andre Ware or Mouse Davis' Portland State teams with Neil Lomax in their run and shoot era got close to that.

Checked the stats -- PSU scored 49.2 ppg in 1980 and Houston scored 53 ppg in 1989.

There's no way anyone is going to do that in a BCS conference, never mind the Big Ten.

 

[NFBuck]

Keep in mind, this is all coming from a guy who was flaming his own subscribers the other night because they had the temerity to express concern over the play of their defense. If you're not there to bow at the feet of DickRod, masturbate to denard's hair or just marvel in his "greatness", you're a hater. It's absurd. As soon as they lose a game because of that defense, that board is going to have a magnificent meltdown.

 

[Mike80]

Didn't we see the same kind of delusional bullshit emanating from the domers in the 2005/2006 time-frame?

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

He's a crackhead. Literally. Given his issues with the english language and grammar...

beaver's issues are astounding. his grammar and limp grasp of the english language are piss-poor. he tosses around hyphens and ellipses like, well, nevadabuck abuses quotation marks.

how can someone be so arrogant just a few weeks after squeaking by umass? umass!