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2010 tOSU Offense Discussion

KingLeon;1785168; said:
Exactly. I think that with the wind and just how the game was flowing, at some point Tressel said [censored] this I'm just gonna get out of here with a win and live to play another day...

Smart move. We all know how good we can be guys...

Yup, and if the announcers had once mentioned that the wind was blowing at 20-30 miles an hour during the broadcast, the average OSU fan wouldn't be in a panic right now.
 
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I don't know why we keep forgetting this. We all need to be reminded. JT religiously believes in keeping the clock moving and shortening the game--sometimes to a fault. It limits mistakes and keeps their offense off of the field. They're forced to play with the time you give them. That is just how our coaching staff rolls. That is how they prefer to control a game.

We can't argue with the success it has offered.
 
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woofermazing;1785489; said:
Yup, and if the announcers had once mentioned that the wind was blowing at 20-30 miles an hour during the broadcast, the average OSU fan wouldn't be in a panic right now.

Agreed. Illinois's kicker comes up short on a normally makable FG and no mention of the wind. First I heard mention was watching JT's presser.
 
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DiamondBuck;1785662; said:
Agreed. Illinois's kicker comes up short on a normally makable FG and no mention of the wind. First I heard mention was watching JT's presser.

I knew it was windy, but only because I have been to 5 or so games in Champaign. No matter what time of year it is, it is windy as hell.

Also, when Basil kicked out of the endzone...I knew something was up.
 
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cbrian815;1784276; said:
284 yards of offense against Ill. I am confused and refuse to make excuses for such a bad performance. We were not playing the 2009 USC Trojan defense. I am sure it was just the wind keeping all that 5 star talent bottled up or that amazing coach Ron Zook.

I'm sure you have plenty of experience playing football in the face of a constant 25 MPH wind. Ask any good QB or coach and the #1 enemy of a passing game is wind. Pryor had some problems adjusting to it when we were drinving with it (see the missed pass to Sanzo in the end zone in the 2nd qtr), so JT wasn't going to risk throwing against the wind.
 
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Tlangs;1785709; said:
I knew it was windy, but only because I have been to 5 or so games in Champaign. No matter what time of year it is, it is windy as hell.

Also, when Basil kicked out of the endzone...I knew something was up.

:lol:

My eyebrows went up too, figured it was an anomaly as they hadn't said anything about wind throughout the entire telecast.
 
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NightmaresDad;1785231; said:
If you're running out the game, like against scUM south, then sure.
But you need points in this case. There was still too much time left for another 3 downs to take enough time off - unless you score more points there. (which thankfully we did)
You're only up by 4, and last I checked, a TD is worth more than that for the other team. Why give the other team a scenario where they can win?

I was all for going for it on 4th down. Then I would have tried my hardest to score a TD and put the game out of reach.
If IL would have scored a TD instead of a FG there at the end, you'd be singing a different tune.

When JT decided to go for that 4th and 1, I said to my buddy at the game, "We'll make this, then still kick a FG, but that'll be after a couple more minutes run off the clock, so JT will be happy with that."

I knew he'd be willing to take his chances on Illinois going 80 yards into the wind. They did get too close for comfort, though.
 
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To be considered an elite offense this team has to find a few young players to step up and provide some depth. Keep in mind that in '06, guys like Robo and Hartline were 4th/5th team while you had Beanie Wells as the backup RB. To match that, you need guys like Hall stepping up into a solid backup and sharing the load with Boom, who's not built to grind out the B10 season with 25 carries a game. Also need a young receiver like Corey Brown or Chris Fields to step up and provide a solid third option. Considering the type of defense we face with Indiana, it would be a good time to look into these options on Saturday.
 
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http://www.theozone.net/football/2010/Illinois/postgame/bythenumbers.html

This is the best breakdown of the game that I have seen written (post-game, that is. We all know that the best previews are found right here on BP :biggrin:) Not sure if we're supposed to quote from certain places but this line sums it all up:

Jim Tressel + bad weather + lead = low risk offensive calls + field position + forcing opponents to beat you instead of beating yourself
 
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808 Buck;1786169; said:
http://www.theozone.net/football/2010/Illinois/postgame/bythenumbers.html

This is the best breakdown of the game that I have seen written (post-game, that is. We all know that the best previews are found right here on BP :biggrin:) Not sure if we're supposed to quote from certain places but this line sums it all up:

unfortunately, as OSU has found, when you face the elite teams of college football the odds of those elite teams beating themselves is much lower than of the likes of Illinois, Michigan State, and Michigan beating themselves.

In other words, JT's philosophy will win you BigTen conference titles but probably land you on the wrong side of the ledger in truly big games.....frequently with humiliating results.

Eventually, JT needs to figure out that to be truly elite you have to beat elite teams that also want to win:(
 
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DaveyBoy;1786172; said:
unfortunately, as OSU has found, when you face the elite teams of college football the odds of those elite teams beating themselves is much lower than of the likes of Illinois, Michigan State, and Michigan beating themselves.

In other words, JT's philosophy will win you BigTen conference titles but probably land you on the wrong side of the ledger in truly big games.....frequently with humiliating results.

Eventually, JT needs to figure out that to be truly elite you have to beat elite teams that also want to win:(

JT has, what, 5 NC's in 8 tries and is 5-3 in BCS games. Not sure what you're talking about...
 
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