2010 tOSU Offense Discussion

[k2onprimetime]

Random - but with Pryor becoming a bit more effecient in the short passing game I would really like to see a certain few play calls come up this year.

The first one I can think of off the top of my head would be this.

YouTube - ‪2006 #1 Ohio State vs. #2 Michigan Highlight Video‬‎


Starting @ 1:17 - the fake quick out and the handoff to Pittman. I'd love to see Berry or Hall in the backfield for this.

Wow that play was sick, I would love to see Berry or Hall with the ball there

 

[Buckeneye]

Few more examples.


Troy with a quick brush right and a pitch left... Love to see Saine for this. Doesn't require a bunch of moves, just decent speed, getting to the outside and a tough finish.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9vssteD6MY]YouTube - Antonio Pittman Touchdown Run[/ame]




Another one I liked with Pittman I can't find a video of.
Minnesota 2005. Troy under center, single back and 4WR balanced set - AP takes the handoff right up the gut and splits the safeties. Hyde with a full head of steam would be scary on 2nd and 3 with that.

 

[Cornerback6]

That was a great Pittman video. I love that play too and would definitely be happy if it was used a few times this year. On a side note, probably one of the most underrated Bucks IMO, and certainly one of my faves. He ran like he was 230 at times.

As for the mention of throwing down to Hall or Berry...don't forget how good Saine's hands are as well. With our offensive options, we could have Saine & (insert RB name here) in the backfield...have him split out wide and act as a WR and still have a great back to take a hand off. Way too many creative possibilities with our O. Loads and loads of versatile weapons...especially with Stoneburner's speed and the stable of various RB types.

 

[Poe McKnoe]

FIRE BOLLMAN!!!1!!1!!ELEVNTY!!!!!!11!!!1!!



i just want to be first in the thread.

As long as you brought it up...

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

The Dispatch weighs in on the hottest topic with respect to the offense.

Time to Loosen the Reins?

...
"I don't think anything is going to change from what (the offense has) always been about," cornerback Chimdi Chekwa said, "which is taking care of the football and being opportunistic. They do a good job with that."
OSU fans, however, are tantalized by the potential for a high-flying approach. In the Buckeyes' last game, junior quarterback Terrelle Pryor carved up Oregon in the Rose Bowl, throwing a career-high 37 times en route to winning offensive MVP honors.
And at the Big Ten preseason meetings two weeks ago, Tressel raised eyebrows by saying Pryor might pass 25 to 30 times per game this season. But before jumping to conclusions, consider that under Tressel, OSU has averaged 24.3 pass attempts a game. So 25 to 30 would not represent a revolutionary change.
Still, there is reason to believe this season could feature a more multifaceted offense - one in which Tressel flips past page 2 of the playbook, simply because the Buckeyes have experience and talent at every spot. In addition to Pryor, OSU has four starters returning on the line, and also returns both starting receivers, both of the main running backs and the starting fullback.
...

 

[Buckskin86]

Offense appears to have edge
Unit is clicking going into jersey scrimmage
Saturday, August 21, 2010
By Tim May
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

After a recent Ohio State practice, Cameron Heyward was none too pleased.

"They scored too many touchdowns," Heyward said.

He was referring to the Ohio State offense, which for the first time in a while is ahead of the defense at this point in a preseason.

Ohio State fans might rejoice at that news, but Heyward was lamenting it. The senior defensive end has been named to several preseason All-American teams and to watch lists for postseason awards. Whenever it's offense vs. defense in scrimmage situations, "you want to come out on top," Heyward said.

That's especially true today, when the team holds its annual jersey scrimmage in Ohio Stadium. The extended affair, which is closed to the public, pits the offense against the defense for more than 100 plays, with the prize being the coveted scarlet practice jerseys to wear for the fall.

The defense has worn them this month, because it won the battle in the spring. But the offense, which seems to be throwing the ball around a lot more than a year ago, would have to be considered the odds-on favorite today.

"After watching the Rose Bowl and winter workouts and spring ball, I knew those guys would come in here rolling, and that's exactly what they're doing," senior safety Jermale Hines said.

The growing maturity and confidence of quarterback Terrelle Pryor is part of the reason why, Hines said.

"They just all grew up, basically," Hines said. "All of them have been playing in and out since they were freshmen, and now that it's their junior year they've grown up, and they know things, and it's taking them a long way."

http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten.../21/offense-appears-to-have-edge.html?sid=101

 

[Buckskin86]

OSU NOTES: Red-zone efficiency concern for Buckeyes
Published: Friday, September 17, 2010
By JOHN KAMPF
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COLUMBUS ? Ohio State is good about getting to the red zone. The Buckeyes just seem to struggle when they get there.

Nine times last week against visiting Miami did the OSU offense venture inside the Hurricanes? 20-yard line. To the Buckeyes? credit, they game out with points seven times.

But only three of those seven resulted in touchdowns. Four Devin Barclay field goals inside the 20 ? the fifth came when a drive stalled at the 24 ? were nice. But the Buckeyes want more.

?We kicked five field goals in the red zone,? sophomore fullback Zach Boren said. ?We went over that (in practice). That?s an area we need to get better at.?

The goal, he said, is to score a touchdown every time they get inside the opponents? 20. That?s obviously not going to happen, but being better than 50-50 is a must.

?It?s about being 100 percent in the red zone and scoring a touchdown every time,? he said. ?If we do that, we will be tough to beat.?

Making it more difficult to score inside the red zone is the shortened field. Offenses are often cramped when they get that deep because the field shortens with the end zone, allowing for defenses to crowd the line of scrimmage.

Four of OSU?s field goals last Saturday came when drives stalled inside not just the 20, but inside the 10.

?There?s less room,? senior guard Justin Boren said, ?but the great teams are going to score when they?re inside the 10. That?s something we have to emphasize. There are no excuses. We need to be able to pound it in and score a touchdown when we are inside the 10.

?If a couple things go Miami?s way, it could have affected us in the end. That?s why we?d ruch rather have 7. We need to have 7 insted of 3 in games like that.?

http://morningjournal.com/articles/2010/09/17/sports/doc4c92eb38c927c400138522.txt

 

[A Pac]

the thing that impresses me the most about this offense is that there aren't many household names. the past few years there have been guys that people have touted for first round picks. this year is different though. outside of pryor, there are a lot of guys that people around the nation have never paid attention to. we became used to hearing names in the media of buckeye players like smith, wells, hartline, holmes, ginn, clarett, and jenkins, but this year is different. most people haven't heard of saine or their wide receivers. i think that is what impresses me the most: the fact that they have a very good offense without too many stars.

 

[GoodLifeSean]

A Pac. I agree to a point though one could definitely argue quite a few know of Posey, Pryor, and J. Boren. But please for the love of God use capitalization when called for it's like reading a post from e. e. cummings. I type half my posts from my phone and still use caps. Sorry to go grammar Nazi but it drives me a little batty.

 

[GeorgiaBuck2]

Pet peeves.

 

[JBaney45]

Random - but with Pryor becoming a bit more effecient in the short passing game I would really like to see a certain few play calls come up this year.

The first one I can think of off the top of my head would be this.

YouTube - ‪2006 #1 Ohio State vs. #2 Michigan Highlight Video‬‎


Starting @ 1:17 - the fake quick out and the handoff to Pittman. I'd love to see Berry or Hall in the backfield for this.

Don't know if you recall but that play was actually drawn up by an older woman who sent it in to Tressel. The coaching staff was impressed by how well the play was drawn up and decided to implement it and use it in that situation lol.

Not that that has much to do with the topic at hand, just always thought it was interesting.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

http://morningjournal.com/articles/2010/09/17/sports/doc4c92eb38c927c400138522.txt

IIRC, our red-zone efficiency in the early part of the 2002 season was ridculous, something like 20 trips, 18 TDs, 2 FGs in the first three or four games.

 

[Buckskin86]

Football: OSU offense full of confidence
Experience helps resilient Buckeyes answer with big plays
Tuesday, September 21, 2010
By Tim May
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

This year's Ohio State team is still months away from finding out whether it fits the definition of great. But the No. 2 Buckeyes are showing signs of greatness on offense, one of those being the ability to counterpunch with quarterback Terrelle Pryor at the helm.

"When we've had to do that, we've done it," offensive coordinator Jim Bollman said. "We've got to keep doing it, though."

The players feel the same vibe.

"I think we have some big-play kinds of players," running back Brandon Saine said. "And Terrelle is leading us very well out there and getting things going."

Nine of the 11 offensive starters have returned from last season, which ended with a victory over Oregon in the Rose Bowl. Proof of the offense's resiliency has been evident since that game:

http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten...1/osu-offense-full-of-confidence.html?sid=101

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

I'm usually not around during the off-season; but this year is different. The 2010 Buckeyes have tremendous potential all over the roster. The prospects of whether that potential will be realized should be worthy of a great deal of discussion. This thread should be the most fertile ground for discussion during the summer of 2010.

For starters, Pryor enters the season with more experience in the Tressel system under his belt than any quarterback in the Tressel era. Let me say that again... No quarterback has ever started the season with more experience in Tressel's system under his belt than what TP starts 2010 with.

Krenzel in '03 you say? No. He started The Game and the ill-fated Bowl in 2001, then all of 2002.

How about Troy in '06? Still no. He started half of '04 and most of '05.

TP is the only quarterback to start a season having already started 1 and 3/4 seasons under the Tressel system.

Then there is the fact that TP is among the favorites for the Heisman Trophy. People out there with no affinity for the Buckeyes whatsoever are calling TP the front runner. Some of you will scoff, but it is being discussed seriously by people who think and write about college football for a living.

That brings me to the point where this discussion is... or is it a discussion? In the tags, the idea was put forward that this might be the best OSU offense under Tressel. As this was done with a question mark, it seemed only to deem it a possibility. Other tags though, seem to suggest that it is so far out of the realm of possibility that it is not worthy of discussion. Either it's "loopy" to simply ask the question, or it's a legitimate question. I'll take the latter side in this discussion of course. If I accepted the former, there would be no discussion.

Clearly, the only previous offense that we need to consider here is the 2006 offense. Only one other offense in the Tressel era was top 25 in scoring offense or Differential Scoring Offense (DSO), and that was 2005. In 2006, the Buckeyes were #6 in the nation in scoring offense and #5 in DSO. So the question is, can the 2010 Buckeyes be top-5?

To put it another way: Can the 2010 Buckeyes be the first offense in the Tressel era to average 35 points per game against FBS competition? I think it is possible. I won't claim expectation one way or the other until I've seen the boys play, but the topic is at least worthy of discussion in my opinion.

Or do we want to consider yards gained and not just points? If so, the bar is even lower. No Tressel offense has ever placed in the Top 25 in Total offense or Differential Total Offense (considering only FBS vs. FBS games). Can this edition of the Ohio State Offense be the first? I think it can, and I'll go on record right now that I think they will.

As already discussed, TP is entering the year with experience. We saw him calling plays at the line in the Spring Game. He has more experience than Troy had in 2006, so I don't see why they wouldn't let him call plays (audibles) at the line at least to the extent that Troy did that year.

But it's more than just Pryor. There are 9 starters back on offense. And let's face it, the two spots from whence starters departed (LT and TE) just might be upgraded despite new starters taking over. There is, in my opinion, a legitimate possibility that there will be an upgrade in the level of play at all 11 positions on the offense over last year.

Without question, this year marks the best opportunity for improvement on offense in the Tressel era. The only other year when such an improvement was possible was 2005. From 2004 to 2005, the Buckeyes improved by 8 and 1/2 points per game. The Buckeyes can miss that mark by 2 and 1/2 points and still be the first team in the Tressel era to average 35 points per game.

Call me crazy, even loopy; but I think it is very possible that the Buckeyes will have their best offense since 1998 this year.

*cough* ahem *cough*

The Buckeyes can average 28 points per game through the conference schedule and still be the first Tressel-led OSU squad to average over 35 for the regular season. As they averaged 27.75 ppg in Big Ten play last year, this seems pretty doable to me.

 

[GeorgiaBuck2]