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Game Thread 2010 Rose Bowl: Ohio State 26 Oregon 17 (Final, 1/01/2010)

I like this matchup for two reasons:

1. Oregon lost to Stanford, Gerhart rushed for 238 on them. I expect Tressel to use the same gameplan Stanford used, pound it out on the ground play if safe.

2. Stanford scored 51 on Oregon, so Oregon doesn't have that good of a defense. Oregon scored 42 on Stanford, but Stanford doesn't have that good of a defense. Ohio State is much better defensively then both these teams and if they can force a lot of turnovers I can see Ohio State running away with this game, kind of like the Penn State game.
 
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GODUCKS4;1614804; said:
Oregon was not ready. Oregon has a young offense line and it took them a while to gel. Masoli played horrible made all the wrong reads. I think the pressure got to them. Bosie is a pretty good team, not great. Masoli did not play well vs Purdue either. The Oregon offenses did not get rolling until the Cal game.
So, "getting rolling" coincided with moving into pac10 play?
 
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OhioState001;1616753; said:
I like this matchup for two reasons:

1. Oregon lost to Stanford, Gerhart rushed for 238 on them. I expect Tressel to use the same gameplan Stanford used, pound it out on the ground play if safe.

2. Stanford scored 51 on Oregon, so Oregon doesn't have that good of a defense. Oregon scored 42 on Stanford, but Stanford doesn't have that good of a defense. Ohio State is much better defensively then both these teams and if they can force a lot of turnovers I can see Ohio State running away with this game, kind of like the Penn State game.

Transitive theory does not work in reality. :wink:
 
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Bucky Katt;1616751; said:
Eh, it's the hyperbole of the internet.

Duckfan1: Oregon is the best offense in the nation! Pac10 football > *! Big10 sucks and has no offense!
Buckeyefan1: OSU is the best defense in the nation! Big10 football isn't as bad as it looks. Pac10 sucks and has no defense!

Most folks here seem to be expect a close game. There are some people (BUCKYLE :lol:) that would predict a 3 TD OSU victory over the 85 Bears.

How does your team feel about facial hair? It's impossible to make a prediction on an outcome without knowing the beard status of the Ducks.

OSU is full of bearded young men, FWIW.



The game all comes down to who scores the most points. You should know these things by now. :shake:

Bullshit. 85 Bears? 12 points.
 
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Game comes down to our offense and whether they've truly overcome their early season problems in the following areas:
  1. Does TP play error free and make good decisions on when to pass and when not to pass
  2. Does the OL come out with a fire in their sac and wear down the Oregon front 7.
  3. Does our backup kicker rise to the occasion
  4. Do we convert red zone visits to touchdowns or settle for field goals.
Check all four of these, and Oregon's offense won't be on the field long enough to score big. Ohio State by 14.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1616783; said:
Game comes down to our offense and whether they've truly overcome their early season problems in the following areas:
  1. Does TP play error free and make good decisions on when to pass and when not to pass
  2. Does the OL come out with a fire in their sac and wear down the Oregon front 7.
  3. Does our backup kicker rise to the occasion
    [*]Do we convert red zone visits to touchdowns or settle for field goals.
Check all four of these, and Oregon's offense won't be on the field long enough to score big. Ohio State by 14.

I tend to agree with all your points ORD but the most important one is #4. If the last couple big games in my memory serve me correct the Buckeyes have had not much trouble moving the football. It is when the Buckeyes get in the redzone is where their difficulties lie. Even against USC last year, we moved the ball on them a decent bit especially in the first half, as we did this year, but they just could not get it in the endzone. If the Buckeyes are putting 6 on the board instead of 3's I like our chances a lot. TP after the Purdue game did not force as many throws and started to show some maturity by taking what the defense gave him. Another plus is that TP seems to step up in these big games especially, big road games.
 
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When Stanford beat Oregon 51-42, they did it the old fashioned way, running the football with some passing mixed in. And Stanford's defense made just enough stops to make a difference. They got help from the special teams too. That is how you beat Oregon.
 
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The Bucks have been doing a fairly good job of scoring while in their redzone offense since the Purdue debacle...

red zone trips-15
red zone fgs-3
red zone tds-9
rz TO-1(minn)
missed fgs in rz-2(1 in Minn(Pettrey)/1 Barclay's first fg attempt(JB was QB for this drive))
bauserman drives-2(NMSU)

If you take Bauserman's drives off OSU is 11/13, 9 tds, 1 TO, 1 Missed Pettrey FG.

It seems as if the redzone offense has been doing better towards the end of the year. Hopefully they can keep it up.
 
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Bucky Katt;1616751; said:
Eh, it's the hyperbole of the internet.

Duckfan1: Oregon is the best offense in the nation! Pac10 football > *! Big10 sucks and has no offense!
Buckeyefan1: OSU is the best defense in the nation! Big10 football isn't as bad as it looks. Pac10 sucks and has no defense!

Most folks here seem to be expect a close game. There are some people (BUCKYLE :lol:) that would predict a 3 TD OSU victory over the 85 Bears.

How does your team feel about facial hair? It's impossible to make a prediction on an outcome without knowing the beard status of the Ducks.

OSU is full of bearded young men, FWIW.



The game all comes down to who scores the most points. You should know these things by now. :shake:



Thankfully im buckeyefan underscore 1(buckeyefan_1) :biggrin:
 
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CalvinistBuck;1616383; said:
While much of the chest thumping has revolved around the alleged high-power Duck offense and the stout Buckeye defense, it may be the perceived weaknesses of these two teams that have a greater role in the outcome of this game. In my humble opinion, if tOSU offense is opportunistic and productive, the Buckeyes should win.

Since I'm interested in discussing and predicting strategy, which of the two approaches do you think the Buckeyes will employ on offense and why?

A) Along the lines of typical Tresselball, the Bucks will try to establish a power running attack at the outset. They will dare the Ducks to stop the run and utilize a game plan that reduces risk in order to limit turnovers and win the field position battle.

B) The Tressel-led Bucks will come out throwing the ball and make an attempt to deviate from their typical power running game. In an effort to stretch the field, the Buckeyes will try to establish a passing game in order to set up a solid running attack.

To suppose that tOSU offense will seek to have a balanced attack of running and passing is too easy. If you think the two options above are not satisfactory, then would you predict that JT will be conservative or modify current tendencies and take risk?

Saying the Ohio State will seek to have a balanced attack may be a cop-out, but I think it's the correct answer. That said, within that context I think Tressel will find a way to do something a little different or a little more open than he did during the regular season. That seems to be the m.o. in non-NC bowl games. I think we'll see the power running attack used to set up the "wrinkles".

Merih;1616731; said:
Am I the only one who is ecstatic that the game is on ABC. I just love ABC a lot better than FOX...better memories, unfortunately :lol:

You're definitely not the only one. The Bucks are 0-3 on FOX. I'm glad that shit is over with. Some people are tired of some of ESPN/ABC's shit, but the overall viewing experience is still better than FOX in my opinion.
 
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jlb1705;1616892; said:
You're definitely not the only one. The Bucks are 0-3 on FOX. I'm glad that shit is over with. Some people are tired of some of ESPN/ABC's shit, but the overall viewing experience is still better than FOX in my opinion.

I hate everything about FOX sports coverage. It's terrible. I'd rather listen to ESPN's bias and stupidity.
 
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jlb1705;1616892; said:
You're definitely not the only one. The Bucks are 0-3 on FOX.


I've always had this in the back of my mind but would never say it, thanks for being a trooper.


Yeah, eff that Fox nonsense. The intro to the 06 Fiesta Bowl was badass.
I wanna see some more just like it, ABC always does big games right.
 
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OhioState001;1616753; said:
I like this matchup for two reasons:

1. Oregon lost to Stanford, Gerhart rushed for 238 on them. I expect Tressel to use the same gameplan Stanford used, pound it out on the ground play if safe.

Certainly this will be the way to beat Oregon. Keep the ball out of the hands of the offense and that is exactly what Stanford did with their run game. However, let me just add this Duck fan's observation. I think the reason they were so successful (Gerhart notwithstanding) was the razor sharp passing of Luck in that game. Oregon had to respect the short, medium AND long ball. He was making everything work. So if Pryor has that kind of game, the Ducks will be in trouble.
OhioState001;1616753; said:
2. Stanford scored 51 on Oregon, so Oregon doesn't have that good of a defense. Oregon scored 42 on Stanford, but Stanford doesn't have that good of a defense. Ohio State is much better defensively then both these teams and if they can force a lot of turnovers I can see Ohio State running away with this game, kind of like the Penn State game.

No debating this. Oregon will lose if it doesn't take care of the ball. But don't sell Oregon's defense too short. Again, Stanford was having an almost perfect game on offense and the Ducks were a step slow coming off their emotional Halloween night's win over USC. The punditry of that week was matching Oregon vs Florida in a dream NC game.

So while I'm making excuses through my Duck colored glasses. I don't think you can definitively say how much better Ohio State's defense would have played against Stanford that day. We know your defense shut down the running games of Michigan, Iowa and Penn State, and that bodes well for you against Oregon. But I'm looking forward to seeing if my Ducks might be better offensively than those teams. That's why we play the game.
 
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