Buckeye86;1441505; said:
With all due respect, kiss my ass. I don't like hip-hop and I don't know what the fuck generation y is. Am I not allowed to study and understand the Roman Empire just because I wasn't alive then? Jim Tressel came to my high school and spoke while he was still the coach at YSU, I shook the mans hand, does that mean I know him any better than anyone else on this board? Absolutely not.
Like I said to Mili, you can think whatever you want about Woody, but so can I. Maybe being alive at the time gives you a unique perspective on the man, but aren't most things best understood looking back after the fact?
Like you said, lets get back to talking about TSUN and mocking their recruiting, but this whole 'I was alive then and therefore , I know better than you' attitude is ridiculous. I don't understand how watching an interview on TV or even taking a class with the man is any better than reading what his players and the people who knew him best have to say about Woody many years later after thinking their whole lives about what the man stood for and what he had meant to them.
I'll try not to pile on, but I'll ask you to look at this a little differently, and see if some common ground can be found.
Let's say that in 30 years or so, you're on a message board and there's some discussion of Jim Tressel. Will you believe that having lived through the time he was coaching at tOSU, seeing him on TV, hearing him speak, etc. will give you more insight into the man than someone that was born after his coaching career and public appearances are over, but has only studied him afterwards due to an interest in tOSU football? I'm not trying to say that one can't learn a lot about somebody in the past, only that others that lived through it are more likely to have a fuller perspective.
The relationship between Woody and Bo was very complex. Since you've studied Woody, you know how he frequently visited hospitals; so for Woody to not send something to Bo (even though it was a few weeks after the most painful defeat Woody had suffered to date, maybe ever) would have been completely out of character for him. As an aside, for accuracy's sake, that Rose Bowl was after the '69 season, but is called the 1970 Rose Bowl.
Woody worked closely with Bo for years, and I believe truly respected him, but much of that was grudgingly once Bo left to become the coach of his enemy/rival. But I also believe it was possible for Woody to respect Bo while at the same time loathing the football program and the entire state up north. And I also believe his competitiveness made it difficult to demonstrate that respect for Bo while they were both coaching at the rival schools, since he'd prefer to show total disdain for anything involving TSUN.
Evidence of either Woody's loathing of TSUN or of his respect for Bo doesn''t preclude the other from existing. As far as friendship, I think Woody's feelings for TSUN made that almost impossible during the 10-Year War.
