2009 TSUN News (football only discussion)

[ant80]

People over at umgoblow claim that UM will wear all-white uniforms against Iowa. Pictures are here. U-G-L-Y!!! May give the ducks a run for their money.

I tried posting some images but can't. It asks me for the image url. Don't know how that works. Oh well, you'll see the post.

 

[Redhawk]

I tried posting some images but can't. It asks me for the image url. Don't know how that works.

Right click image and choose properties.

 

[NFBuck]

Here come the gimmicky uniforms! Another domino falls.

 

[Poe McKnoe]

Not sure how many here are impressed with Tater Tot after their Notre Dame game, but I am...the kid could be quite dangerous by the time The Game rolls around.

We can still make fun.

A unbiased coworker of mine from St Louis who knows NOTHING about sports in general, let alone Michigan football, glanced at ESPN during lunch and asked...

"What is this...Special Olympics Football? I look up at the TV screen and see this scrawny kid akwardly throwing a ball."



I reserve judgement until he faces a real live defense.

 

[leroyjenkins]

I hope it doesn't rain........

 

[jwinslow]

Minor continues to show why he needs to be featured in this offense. He's the best back in the league right now (perhaps Clay is better, but he is held back by his team).

Forcier shows a lot of poise for a youngster. He still makes some freshman mistakes with his throws out there when he's not throwing to open men, but does as well as you can hope for at his age. He is dangerous on designed runs but not quite as slippery when scrambling as a passer and was caught from behind by DL fairly often. When he starts out in the pocket, he likes to step up and slip outside right under the pass rush, buying time to throw. It will be interesting to see if Heacock's zone blitz packages can take advantage of this tendency.

Finally watching the 2nd half of the ND game (10 min left). and UM's bad defensive performance was bailed out further quite a lot by unforced mistakes. The first half throws out of bounds, the idiotic 3rd & 5 qb draw call, the 2nd half drops by Tate, the holding call on the embarrassing full field rumble by Rudolph, etc.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens against MSU. I don't think sparty can defend well enough to stop UM's offense (and probably costs them a win), but if MSU goes with Nichol, I see another bad outing for UM's D.

 

[mh20]

Minor continues to show why he needs to be featured in this offense. He's the best back in the league right now (perhaps Clay is better, but he is held back by his team).

Forcier shows a lot of poise for a youngster. He still makes some freshman mistakes with his throws out there when he's not throwing to open men, but does as well as you can hope for at his age. He is dangerous on designed runs but not quite as slippery when scrambling as a passer and was caught from behind by DL fairly often. When he starts out in the pocket, he likes to step up and slip outside right under the pass rush, buying time to throw. It will be interesting to see if Heacock's zone blitz packages can take advantage of this tendency.

Finally watching the 2nd half of the ND game (10 min left). and UM's bad defensive performance was bailed out further quite a lot by unforced mistakes. The first half throws out of bounds, the idiotic 3rd & 5 qb draw call, the 2nd half drops by Tate, the holding call on the embarrassing full field rumble by Rudolph, etc.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens against MSU. I don't think sparty can defend well enough to stop UM's offense (and probably costs them a win), but if MSU goes with Nichol, I see another bad outing for UM's D.

Nichol can't hit the broadside of the barn. If MSU wants to beat UM they have to stick with Cousins IMO.

I think our defense will hold up much better against MSU than Notre Dame.

Jimmy has an NFL arm, the guy can make impressive looking throws.

Mike Floyd puts the fear of God in DB's, which in turn opens a lot of things up for Golden Tate. Not so sure BJ Cunningham and Mark Dell are going to scare anybody.

 

[jwinslow]

Nichol can't hit the broadside of the barn.

I didn't see most of MSU's second game yet, so i'll assume this is correct for the time being.

I think our defense will hold up much better against MSU than Notre Dame. Jimmy has an NFL arm, the guy can make impressive looking throws.

He also made a lot of typical throws with poor coverage and tackling downfield.

Mike Floyd puts the fear of God in DB's

BooBoo sure tried hard to hide it with his arm out strutting dances.

which in turn opens a lot of things up for Golden Tate.

True, but Warren had trouble with Tate underneath and deep.

Not so sure BJ Cunningham and Mark Dell are going to scare anybody.

Neither of which are MSU's best receiver.

 

[mh20]

I thought Warren played a pretty decent game. He broke up around 4 passes and was playing man-to-man with no safety help over the top. He's going to get beat sometimes and he did, but he played much better this week than he did last.

Blair White doesn't scare anybody either.

 

[jwinslow]

Blair White doesn't scare anybody either.

I'm guessing your arrogance was even stronger last year, and he went for 143 & a score. The kid can play.

He broke up around 4 passes and was playing man-to-man with no safety help over the top.

Aren't they going to be doing that again?

Overall, I don't see a secondary that can shut down an opposing passing game. Where I think UM could hurt MSU is in the trenches, although last week was an underwhelming performance (and Herron was a big liability in the running game). I see the pocket collapsing on Cousins and forcing a good QB into bad situations with his lack of mobility.

 

[brutus2002]

Ralph Bolden is twice the back Minor is. Minor has handle issues. He fumbled a couple times and recoved them.

 

[mh20]

Ralph Bolden is twice the back Minor is. Minor has handle issues. He fumbled a couple times and recoved them.

He didn't fumble one time.

One time there was a bad exchange between him and Forcier.

Another time there was a play where Minor was ruled as fumbling the ball and recovering it himself, but on replays they showed without a doubt that his knee was down before the ball came out. The ball should have been re-spotted.

 

[HailToMichigan]

Here come the gimmicky uniforms! Another domino falls.

Some of Bo's teams wore white pants. It's not gimmicky. Nor is it, to the best of my knowledge, true: I haven't seen anything saying it's anything other than message board speculation gone amok.

I didn't see most of MSU's second game yet, so i'll assume this is correct for the time being.

It pretty much is. It couldn't have been more obvious against CMU that Cousins is the better passer. In one stretch Nichol's receiver beat his man by five steps and Nichol overthrew him by five more, blowing a sure touchdown; Nichol then proceeded to put two passes in the dirt three feet shy of the target. It was awful.

 

[TheIronColonel]

TSUN fans had better hope that Warren doesn't get hurt, or you'll be starting BooBoo (lol) and...who? Justin Turner? No. Depth. If a corner goes down (or anybody in the back 4 gets hurt), it's going to be a really long year.

 

[jwinslow]

It pretty much is. It couldn't have been more obvious against CMU that Cousins is the better passer. In one stretch Nichol's receiver beat his man by five steps and Nichol overthrew him by five more, blowing a sure touchdown; Nichol then proceeded to put two passes in the dirt three feet shy of the target. It was awful.

It appears my previous statement was based on obsolete data (game 1, where he looked pretty good at times). I usually watch the rest of the CFB games during the week, since I'm usually working on saturdays.