2009 TSUN News (football only discussion)

[NFBuck]

Scout.com: Why does everyone think or D is terrible?

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Re: Why does everyone think or D is terrible?

I hope Coach is right about the safeties. If they can play at C+ or even C- level the defense should be improved despite the dropoff from the DL.
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Shooting for a C+ or C-. Congrats Dick, you've done wonders with the standards up there.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Re: Why does everyone think or D is terrible?

They watched it play?

 

[Oh8ch]

Why does everyone think or D is terrible?

Slow down folks - let's parse the sentence.

"or" is a conjunction indicating two alternatives. The poster appears to be asking "if everyone thinks" or "if their D is terrible". The poster also provides evidence that, no, everyone does not think. This makes it easy to agree that, yes, their D is terrible.

 

[jwinslow]

U-M's Kelvin Grady could go from hoops to Big House | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

U-M's Kelvin Grady could go from hoops to Big House

Kelvin Grady left the Michigan basketball team two months ago, announcing his decision to transfer to another school to play basketball.


The transfer might not be necessary.


As Grady continues to evaluate his options, one of them is playing for the Michigan football team. He has spoken with the U-M staff regarding the opportunity.


Grady, a 5-foot-10 standout running back/receiver in high school at East Grand Rapids, is considering a number of basketball and football options.


He amassed more than 2,000 yards and scored 28 touchdowns as an all-state running back his senior season. He would be an ideal fit in Rich Rodriguez's spread offense with his mobility and ability to shift his body in space.
If Grady were to play football at U-M, he could be eligible this season with three years of football eligibility remaining.

 

[NFBuck]

U-M's Kelvin Grady could go from hoops to Big House | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

5'11, 170LB...might be a little tall.

 

[goblue15]

Prater Visits Ann Arborhttp://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=2&c=868638
Very interesting that we actually have a shot at him, even though we have 5 wideouts already committed I think you take this kid regardless.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

you can never have too many WRs... take 85.. see if I care.

 

[blueinfla]

Update from BBQ courtesy of mgoblog:

Summing up rivals article:
Might get a committment in a LB, Ken Wilkins. Thoughts on a committing but is talking it over with the fam.
Gardner said it was real fun and chilled with the players, playing video games.
Austin White really liked the BBQ. I've heard Austin wants to come to Michigan(heard it through the grapevine). But kind of wants to go out of state.
Lots of other players attended. It wasn't set up for giving out offers, just to meet the coaches in a laid back atmosphere.
Illinois reciever Kyle Prater (no.19 nationally), said his interest in michigan is VERY HIGH, he spent a lot of time with the coaches. Also spent lots of time with Rich Rod.
Apparently Gardner and Prater hit it off well. After the BBQ they threw the ball around."He has a very nice arm" says prater.

 

[JBaney45]

Okay, according to the Beav, here's their offer breakdown (including current commits and those commited elsewhere...
QB- 9
RB- 17
WR-13
Slot- 5
OT-11
OG-2
Offense total = 57

DT-6
DE-19
LB-23
CB-17
S-11
Defense total = 76

That's 133 offers on the table.

That's just absurd. Who needs to offer nine QB's? (especially when you have one blue-chipper already commited and two true froshes that are supposed to be good prospects)or 17 RB's? Sorry, but a scUM offer means next to nothing. It appears that JT and the staff want a tOSU offer to really mean something when you get it. Dick Rod is apparently just taking the Zooker approach...throw [censored] against the wall and see if it sticks. :crazy:

Can someone tell me where this breakdown came from? Scout only has about 70 players listed with offers

 

[jwinslow]

Scout $

5/29

5'7" 185 lb RB Nick Hill says UM is close to offering and he'd likely verbal. Holds offers from most of the MAC and Stanford. Wears #32 for UM legend Anthony Thomas.

Can someone tell me where this breakdown came from? Scout only has about 70 players listed with offers

List put together from the guys on UM's scout site (Beav = Tom Beaver, the editor of Go Blue Wolverine).

 

[jwinslow]

Scout $

5/30

Prater and parents had a nice time at UM, got to see how he would fit into the offense.

Scout $

Avon Lake OL Christian Pace is deciding soon between FSU, NW & UM.

 

[jwinslow]

Mathy Mailbag! | mgoblog

Yikes. A quick combing of Michigan's roster comes up with the following potential 2010 draftees outside of Graham:

• Greg Mathews: maybe a late pick? He doesn't have the speed to go very high.
• Minor/Brown: it's too early to tell with either but both have the raw physical ability to be drafted somewhere decent. One seems like a first day pick with the other going later.
• Ortmann/Moosman: probably not drafted.
• Stevie Brown: Lions first rounder.
• Zoltan The Inconceivable: likely to be the first punter off the board, whenever that happens.

So, yeah, it's Brandon Graham, a couple running backs, and the space punter. I don't know what the fewest number of players drafted from a power program over a two-year period is, but that's probably not the right question. The right question is "how many teams with like one high NFL draft pick and three or four mid-round picks are any good?" and the answer is "none, but there are plenty that didn't go 3-9."

He continued with a wordy evaluation of offense vs defense, complete with fancy stat graphs.

 

[jwinslow]

U-M's Kelvin Grady could go from hoops to Big House | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

Go Blue Michigan Wolverine: Mailbag question: Kelvin Grady interested in Football

Kelvin Grady is an excellent athlete with good movement skills. He is also smallish and lacks weight and strength. We see no harm in taking a look at him and seeing if he has the skills necessary to help the program.

The only real problem we see is he has been out of football for several years along with "family issues" towards the football program or the university in general. If anybody was in earshot of this family member during the spring scrimmage will know what we are talking about.

We were told that Kelvin was looking around at big-time basketball programs such as Duke, Notre Dame and those type of programs, but he might have gotten shot down so he is now deciding on if he should get academics in order and get a degree at Michigan or move on somewhere else so he can continue his basketball career.

Go Blue Michigan Wolverine: Jordan Paskorz: 2010 Michigan Wolverine Commit

Overview: Solid athlete who could play on the defensive line on defense or as tight end, max-back on offense. Could be used similar to RVB, strong side defensive end who can slide down and play defensive tackle in some packages.

Strengths: Plays a very aggressive physical game. Is excellent blocking tight end who shows good hands. Is an excellent blocker who maintains a good wide base and moves his feet very well. On defense he is solid tackler who takes on blockers and is strong at point of attack.

Needs Work: Needs to improve with the use of his hands and punch. Must learn to bend his knees and watch his pad level. Has an average get off.

 

[blueinfla]

Update from BBQ courtesy of mgoblog:

More....

Tony Grimes said he was shocked how the visit went. He had high expectations because he's cool with Vlad Emilian, and Vlad has hyped us up. He then said the visit exceeded his expectations. He loves the coaches and was impressed by the academics.

 

[Buckskin86]

in case anyone didn't see (also in Toney thread)..

The Michigan Daily
Interview with former Michigan wide receiver Toney Clemons
By joe stapleton, written on May. 30, 2009

So I know this comes closely following the Steven Threet interview, which may make it seem like I am a bit trigger-happy as far as these things go. To tell you the truth, this one really fell in my lap and Toney just wanted to clear the air, in a way, with the fans and the University. I also took the opportunity to ask him a few questions about the NCAA?s handling of coaching changes in general (scroll down to the last two). So, about a week ago I did this interview with him over the phone. Here it is:

Joe Stapleton: What does Colorado have to offer that Michigan does not?

Toney Clemons: The funny thing about that is, it was what was so similar to Michigan that attracted me to Colorado. Coming in my freshman year with coach (Lloyd) Carr, the way my position coach was a big part of the offense was the same thing Colorado had to offer, my position coach (Colorado offensive coordinator Eric Kiesau) was promoted to offensive coordinator, I was his number one guy coming out of high school, and they had a lot of the same values that coach Carr and his staff had to offer. Caring about you as a person before a player, that was actually the main thing, coming in playing with Eric Kiesau was a big deal for me. He did wonders with (current Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver) DeSean Jackson coming out of Cal, and he thought I was the same type of talent, and he thought he could do a lot with me. So, the things that attracted me to Michigan coming out of high school were the same things that attracted me to Colorado. There really wasn?t much of a difference to be honest with you, that?s kind of the funny thing about the whole situation.

JS: There have been a lot of players who have said the values that were there under Lloyd Carr aren?t there under Rich Rodriguez. What values are you referring to?

TC: Well, the main difference for me, value-wise was with coach Carr (and his staff), they were like father figures, you know? They really raised you to be a man, they got you right, got you living right both on and off the field. When I talk about values, that?s what I?m talking about. I can talk to coach Carr now and get fatherly advice, same with (former Michigan wide receivers coach) Eric Campbell. They really teach you how to grow up. I can?t really compare my meaning of values to what other players have said, but for me, it just meant they really cared for you as a person?you came in the program as a boy, and they were going to make you a man. That?s something they stressed to parents, ?we?re going to raise your son, he?s going to be a great man as well as a great player.? That?s just something that they stressed and that was the difference for me. I just didn?t really see it as much in the new system, there were just different philosophies in the system. It was more than just a coaching change, it was a lifestyle change as well. That was the difference for me.

The Michigan Daily ? The Game ? Interview with former Michigan wide receiver Toney Clemons