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buckeyeintn
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jwinslow;1456072; said:
There you go, letting facts get in the way of a good story again.
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brutus2002
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I guess I will chime in. I am gonna be brutally honest. If Mouton, Warren, Martin, and Van Bergen were missed that bad you guys are in serious trouble...heres why.
Warren IMO would start opposite Chekwa
Mouton would be a special teamer.
Marting might be our 2-deep
Van Bergen might be our 7th best DE...I'm saying this with a straight face.
So all these world beaters were not there eh...If you want to see some LB'ers and DB's that can tackle watch our spring game tommorow. TP would put 150+ yards rushing on your 1st team defense. If Coner can run 50 yards before a DB catches him just imagine what Pryor would do...next.
Warren IMO would start opposite Chekwa
Mouton would be a special teamer.
Marting might be our 2-deep
Van Bergen might be our 7th best DE...I'm saying this with a straight face.
So all these world beaters were not there eh...If you want to see some LB'ers and DB's that can tackle watch our spring game tommorow. TP would put 150+ yards rushing on your 1st team defense. If Coner can run 50 yards before a DB catches him just imagine what Pryor would do...next.
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Martin's a good young DT, he'd definately be in our 2 deep. He's one of a handful of players from that D I'd take.brutus2002;1456104; said:
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The point is he didn't start adjusting to LB last year. He's about to start his 4th year - while at UM - at LB.
He was rather average last year. Perhaps as the game slows down for him, he'll play faster, but he didn't really flash any more athleticism than he did consistency.
He was rather average last year. Perhaps as the game slows down for him, he'll play faster, but he didn't really flash any more athleticism than he did consistency.
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TheIronColonel
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NFBuck;1456032; said:
I was actually basing my post on the common chest-thumping argument that's going around: Forcier is a more polished passer than Pryor. If that's true, his efficiency numbers should be better than Pryor's - and I'm willing to bet that that won't be the case.
It's not necessarily that Forcier isn't more talented than Pryor (although he's not) or that he's a freshman (although he is). He's just not a better passer. Period. Regardless of whether you compare the efficiency numbers from this year or last year, and I'm metaphysically certain that Pryor will have superior statistics.
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Buckeye86
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TheIronColonel;1456198; said:
that's just because Pryor has better receivers to throw to, a better offensive line to protect him, better running backs to hand the ball off to, better coaches to teach him, better fans to encourage him, and a better stadium to play in, it gives him an unfair advantage
if it wasn't for all of those things Tate would be better :moo:
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At this point, or at least as freshmen, I have no problem saying Forcier is the more polished passer. I know he hasn't played a real down yet, but mechanically he's sound whereas Pryor is still a work in progress. His numbers may not lead the big ten in efficiency as Pryor's did, but TP operated under a very limited playbook that hid his weaknesses pretty well. TP still needs polish and to work on his mechanics. Forcier is solid there. As for upside, there's not even a comparison...TheIronColonel;1456198; said:
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southcampus
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I watched the video and saw the same shit I saw last year. I counted about 15 bubble screens, countless role outs, reverses, runs out of the backfield, and a quarterback about the size of a first grader. Seriously, that defense looked like the little Giants.
I honestly think the sCUM dumpsters have good runningbacks and even a good defensive secondary but that O line makes ours look like an NFL line and then there is the 500 pound gorilla in the room that is actually only a buck 60, Tate Foreskin. I'd be surprised if he stayed healthy through a full season of flag football, let alone in a gimmic offense that isn't playing in the Big East.
To all the scUM dumpster fans out there, I'd like to go ahead and warn you: I heard the same shit last year from you guys. While it's cool to read a little bit of what you say about this year (eh probably not actually), the bottom line is that in the end of the day, you're still Meatchicken. Oh no, not the Meatchicken you used to be, the Meatchicken that has lost to Toledo and Appalachian State at home. There really isn't much to get excited about. I mean seriously, it's not good news when the only thing you guys can brag about is how weird your strength coach sounds and how a 17 year old kid just hitting puberty is the savior of your offense.
But hey, dem helmets o yos godem sem wangs.
I honestly think the sCUM dumpsters have good runningbacks and even a good defensive secondary but that O line makes ours look like an NFL line and then there is the 500 pound gorilla in the room that is actually only a buck 60, Tate Foreskin. I'd be surprised if he stayed healthy through a full season of flag football, let alone in a gimmic offense that isn't playing in the Big East.
To all the scUM dumpster fans out there, I'd like to go ahead and warn you: I heard the same shit last year from you guys. While it's cool to read a little bit of what you say about this year (eh probably not actually), the bottom line is that in the end of the day, you're still Meatchicken. Oh no, not the Meatchicken you used to be, the Meatchicken that has lost to Toledo and Appalachian State at home. There really isn't much to get excited about. I mean seriously, it's not good news when the only thing you guys can brag about is how weird your strength coach sounds and how a 17 year old kid just hitting puberty is the savior of your offense.
But hey, dem helmets o yos godem sem wangs.
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