Tresselbeliever;1504903; said:
Ironically enough I just read a book on dream analysis. That one means you need help.
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Ironically enough I just read a book on dream analysis. That one means you need help.
I want to see the Offensive Line want to TAKE yards from the defense. I feel last years guys seemed to think that just getting in the way of the defender was enough and I think that attitude actually stemmed from a lack of confidence stretching back to the Florida MNC game when they couldn't get in front of the Florida defenders.
and I would really like to see more use out of the Tight Ends and Running Backs in the passing game. I think this offense has the ability to be a dominant squad, but there is definitely a possibility of unfocused play (due to their relative lack of experience) as well as some inconsistency.
and I would really like to see more use out of the Tight Ends and Running Backs in the passing game. I think this offense has the ability to be a dominant squad, but there is definitely a possibility of unfocused play (due to their relative lack of experience) as well as some inconsistency.
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Just a thought, but I thought Flash Thomas was supposed to be used like a "Percy Harvin" type in the offense. Is he solely a WR now? It would be nice to see him lined up in the backfield for a few snaps a game. Kind of like how we did with Ginn but more of how teams have a speedy player that they can lineup in different formations to throw off the defense. How scary do u think a defense will be when they see a backfield of TP, Herron and Flash, with Posey and Small on the outside and Dane in the slot. Just a thought, we need to change up our "vanilla" offensive playcalling a bit.
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Poe McKnoe
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pnuts34;1505741; said:
Watch the Big Ten Media Day. Tressel said that there are a number of guys that can rush the ball, in response to being asked about replacing wells. He mentioned Boom and Saine, but also said the QB can rush the ball and the 'guys out wide' can rush the ball. "There's only so many ways you can move around the other 6 guys".
Don't know if that means strictly reverses, etc, but it's not like he's oblivious to having a WR in the backfield. I don't see Ohio State using Florida's playbook however.
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pnuts34;1505741; said:
Let's see... Jim Tressel is 218-76-2 (winning .pct of .736) all time using his "vanilla" approach. At Ohio State he's 83-19 (.814) using his "vanilla" approach...
Something tells me that he's not going to change much of anything unless and until he stops winning consistently (Or maybe if Ohio State stops putting kids in the NFL). People need to give up the hope that Ohio State is going to be 2008 Oklahoma. You need only 1 more point than your opponent to win. 80% of the time, that's going to happen under Tressel's way of doing it.
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I disagree with the logic you guys are using to jump the "vanilla" comment.
No one is saying lets have a flashier offense but less winning. Tressel Ball doesn't mean you actively supress offensive performance. As long as it wasn't leading to excessive turnovers I'm quite sure JT would be happy as hell with a 2008 Oklahoma offense results wise. He has stated many times his goal is 200 yds rushing and 250 passing a game.
There is absolutely no reason we can't be more effective on offense while continuing the strong emphasis on defense and special teams we all know leads to winning football under JT. Likewise there is no reason to jump people who question the offense with the line of reasoning that better offense = less winning.
Good offense and winning are not mutually exclusive. You can do both.
No one is saying lets have a flashier offense but less winning. Tressel Ball doesn't mean you actively supress offensive performance. As long as it wasn't leading to excessive turnovers I'm quite sure JT would be happy as hell with a 2008 Oklahoma offense results wise. He has stated many times his goal is 200 yds rushing and 250 passing a game.
There is absolutely no reason we can't be more effective on offense while continuing the strong emphasis on defense and special teams we all know leads to winning football under JT. Likewise there is no reason to jump people who question the offense with the line of reasoning that better offense = less winning.
Good offense and winning are not mutually exclusive. You can do both.
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Fer sure... and while kicking the hell out of Rice and Pitt by a combined 142-7 was fun, losing 9-13 to a Meechigan that pretty much knew every play OSU had available wasn't much fun at all.mooktarr;1505794; said:
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I agree, but the idea that Tress is going to change how he achieves the goal of winning is, at this point, preposterous.Jaxbuck;1505804; said:
Fact is, Tress has fielded teams that have put up very good offensive numbers and has beaten some teams quite badly (42-7, cough cough). But, they also did so within the confines of his overriding philosophy. I doubt that will change.
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martinss01
blissfully stupid
ysubuck;1504288; said:
... only because he hasn't been given the opportunity. its not like he missed games due to injury. he put up 98 yrds against usc last season and was one of the only people on O not named pryor who deserved to be on the field that day.
i remember reading the same doom and gloom a few years back when we didn't have an elite back. just some bum named pittman who couldn't figure out which was the right bus to take to the stadium. we are solid at tb with herron. certainly not beanie wells or moc level. but there are a lot of colleges that would love to have herron.
ck was probably the most intelligent qb to ever play for tOSU. to compair his intelligence his junior year with a true freshman who declared late and missed the entire spring is beyond unfair. pryor imo did an absolutely unbelievable job as a true freshman. i sometimes wonder if people forget we won the big 10 title, went to a bcs bowl, and were just over 1 min away from beating a team who should have been playing for the nc with a qb who should have won the heisman.
we haven't had this much raw talent at wr since 05. we have a very solid backup qb who i think has the physical ability to lead this team to a big 10 title. the only question mark i have is the oline. seems brewster may be the only person not moving positions or starting for the first time. i could see a lot of early season chemistry problems. realistically this shouldn't be a nc year. but i see nothing here beyond the oline and a lack of upperclassmen that is cause for concern.
.... nick.. sheridan......
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1505807; said:
I agree but the overall performance of the unit under JT has seen more bad than good. It isn't going to hurt our chances of winning if it were to improve in effectiveness, I could care less about asthetics. Like you said, I doubt anything will change, in regards to the offense, either and thats frustrating for a lot of people.
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Sportsbuck28
Here comes the BOOM
Someday, I'd love to see JT incorporate the no-huddle into the offense.
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Wow, I didn't plan on getting jumped on so much for the vanilla comment, some people r getting their panties in a bunch. All I was saying is sometimes switch things up on offense. Watch all of the Buckeyes biggest games and I bet we ALL could predict what plays the offense would run. Run on the first 2 downs and throw pretty much. It seems at times like Tressell doesn't think that other coaches realize that. I agree that he's a great coach and I'm not looking for our team to resemble either Florida or Oklahoma, but I(and I assume many other fans as well) think that at times it wouldn't hurt do utilize some of our great athletes that we have on our team. If Urban Meyer didn't use Harvin or Tebow in creative ways like he does they probably wouldn't have been as successful as they've been. We have some stellar athletes that can be put in different positions to garner mismatches that would greatly enhance our chances against teams in bowl games and out of conference.
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watching the entire team turn in unison to the sideline every single play would drive me to the point of psychosis.Sportsbuck28;1505859; said:
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