2009 Polls - Regular and Pre-Season

[buckeyemania11]

USC would probably argue that. The AP still holds a lot of weight just not within the BCS

BCS is all that matters since it was started in 1998 IMO

USC can hug and cry to their fake media title all they want, LSU is the national champion in 2003)

 

[Basebuck]

BCS is all that matters since it was started in 1998 IMO

USC can hug and cry to their fake media title all they want, LSU is the national champion in 2003

I would agree with you but I can't imagine a school not recognizing an AP title.

 

[Mike80]

If Oregon beats USC it helps Boise but I agree they'll start to get dropped.

Other than that, looking at the schedules, VT and USC getting those second losses is a stretch.

Texas with 1 loss might as well be Texas undefeated. How do we get the nod against them in the polls?

Also I know the precedent is for no rematches but if given a choice between a 1 loss SECCG loser and a 1 loss OSU to play, lets say, UF for the NC I have a hard time believing the pollsters take OSU.

well, there's the problem. I wasn't really talking about the NC game. I was talking about the top 4.

 

[buckeyemania11]

I would agree with you but I can't imagine a school not recognizing an AP title.

eh of course they are going to claim it

this is the point ive always made about this

the media threw a giant fit because their media darling USC did not get into the title game

do you really think any other team in the same situation gets the same special treatment from the media (beside maybe Notre Dame) if its say like Boston College that was in the same situation right there, would the media had voted them #1? im guessing no, USC is a mega media darling and when they didnt get into the title game there was a collective fit thrown, I remember some writers saying they sent their ballots in even before the BCS title game was played (with USC #1 of course)

 

[Mike80]

USC would probably argue that. The AP still holds a lot of weight just not within the BCS

I don't care.

the AP took itself out of the BCS process which governs the National Championship for D-1A football.

I think this is why we keep hearing the media bitch and complain about the coaches poll more this year than ever, because people are realizing more and more that the AP is, indeed, meaningless in the grand scheme of things. And the best part is they did it to themselves too.

 

[Jaxbuck]

well, there's the problem. I wasn't really talking about the NC game. I was talking about the top 4.

Ahh, I see.

I assume thats from a guaranteed BCS spot point of view? If so all I would say on that is we either win out and earn out BCS spot as the B10 champ or we do not and then the BCS would probably be impossible.

 

[Steve19]

Meaningless first. In the AP poll, we are an average of two places below USC on the average voters ballot. We are almost in a dead heat with Cincy, just ten total votes ahead. That's the equivalent of one place higher than them on ten of the ballots--not much. USC is close to passing Boise State.

Meaningful. USC is just five votes higher than Boise State. But, we are about 2.5 votes higher on the average ballot than TCU and now 3 votes higher on the average ballot than Cincy. Northwestern beating Miami of Ohio and being off hurt Cincy. TSUN is now gone from the poll a long way and unlikely to claw their way back in. Iowa and Penn State remain top 15, which give Ohio State a chance to end on a high note. Boise State's opponents now a combined 11-17 and their opponents play even worse schedules than they do, for the most part.

Gotta like Notre Dame slipping back into both polls just before they get their arses handed to them by USC. I think that it is possible that they will not score a TD.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

the AP took itself out of the BCS process which governs the National Championship for D-1A football.

Keep in mind that even the BCS naional title isn't "official". I-A football is the only NCAA sport that doesn't have an official national champion.

 

[Mike80]

Keep in mind that even the BCS naional title isn't "official". I-A football is the only NCAA sport that doesn't have an official national champion.

True. I should have put something about that in there.

In the end though, the AP removed itself from the BCS process.

 

[buckiprof]

BCS is all that matters since it was started in 1998 IMO

USC can hug and cry to their fake media title all they want, LSU is the national champion in 2003)

I would bet Pete Rose any amount of money that if by some weird set of circumstances, OSU found themselves atop the final AP Poll come January 2010 (without playing in the BCS Championship game just like USC in 2003), most folks here, including those who have been dismissing the AP Poll as being irrelevant, would acknowledge it.

 

[Mike80]

Ahh, I see.

I assume thats from a guaranteed BCS spot point of view? If so all I would say on that is we either win out and earn out BCS spot as the B10 champ or we do not and then the BCS would probably be impossible.

I guess, theoretically, if Ohio State somehow loses to either Iowa or Penn State, the BCS could still possibly be in play if the Big XII 2nd team and/or Boise State falls apart.

The SEC is virtually certain to send two, but with Oklahoma already having two losses, a 3rd would virtually eliminate them too.

Although Nebraska has improved, I don't see them beating Texas in the Big XII title game and if it isn't Oklahoma, no one else from the Big XII is good enough.

Oregon or USC is going to lose another game when they play.

Boise State should thank their lucky stars that they both started high and got up before the crap of their schedule was fully exposed. if they lose, they're fucked, but I don't think they'll lose anytime soon.

The Big East is a one bid conference.

Miami is the only other possible ACC entrant, and if Ohio State wins the Big Ten, they'll likely get in without another loss.

For the Big Ten to be a two-bid conference, Iowa or Penn State need to win out, with the one losing to Ohio State while the other beats Ohio State. Ohio State then has to win out. And it needs to hope for another Miami loss along the way.

 

[Steve19]

I would bet Pete Rose any amount of money that if by some weird set of circumstances, OSU found themselves atop the final AP Poll come January 2010 (without playing in the BCS Championship game just like USC in 2003), most folks here, including those who have been dismissing the AP Poll as being irrelevant, would acknowledge it.

Did someone fart?

 

[matcar]

Only to a point.

The coaches poll is what counts. Right now if Oklahoma can somehow beat Texas and someone in the Pac-10 (Oregon) can stop USC, Ohio State might get up into the top 4 if they continue to beat the team in front of them.

The coaches poll will adjust accordingly. The AP poll has people like Doug Lesmaries (or however you spell his name) putting his stupidity on display for the rest of us.

How, exactly is the coaches poll meaningful to tOSU? Do you really think we're worty of being in the NC game? If so, man, you haven't watched the same Bucks team I have. And if we're not worthy ot the NC game, then the polls are ALL meaningless.

 

[Mike80]

How, exactly is the coaches poll meaningful to tOSU? Do you really think we're worty of being in the NC game? If so, man, you haven't watched the same Bucks team I have. And if we're not worthy ot the NC game, then the polls are ALL meaningless.

Re-read my post and get back to me.

 

[matcar]

Re-read my post and get back to me.

I've read your posts. I don't get it...who the fuck cares what your ranking is...it's all just bullshit along with the whining about where we stand. Let's fucking beat Purdue...Minnie,NMST, Penn St, Iowa, Michigan and fuck the polls. If we win out, we should play in the Rose Bowl and we should be damn happy about it and shouldn't give a ratshit about the polls.