Upvote
0
-
New here? Register here now for access to all the forums, download game torrents, private messages, polls, Sportsbook, etc. Plus, stay connected and follow BP on Instagram @buckeyeplanet and Facebook.
- Thread starter OCBucksFan
- Start date
HailToMichigan
Maize and Blue Wahoo
I assume he means in the recruiting department only?
Because Threet's stuck at quarterback while whatever WR you might propose will simply return to WR once Forcier and Beaver show up. I don't really consider it a given that they'll take the reins right away, and even if they do it'll be nice to have a quarterback with a year in the offense listed as backup rather than having to drag somebody back from a non-QB position again.
Not snake oil?
Upvote
0
OCBucksFan
I won a math debate
Whew, you're alive H2M, I was worried that you may have jumped... glad to see you're still breathing though.
Upvote
0
Houston Nutt just beat Florida. Pelini is changing the mentality at Nebraska.
I guess RR has some of the best upside with resources/etc, but I'd like to hear him qualify that statement as well.
I was going to say that there's little distinction, since both negative recruiting and snake oil hold negative meanings in recruiting, but I guess that isn't necessarily true to RR fans :p
Upvote
0
Michigan may have a future under RR, but they are starting 10 seniors right now (15 in the two deep). In two weeks they will be looking at 2-6 with 3 of their last 4 on the road and virtually no chance at a bowl.
They also have 12 Juniors in that two deep. How much of a turn around can be expected in their final season? Particularly when one of those 12 is the QB - a person whose replacement with an incoming Frosh is almost a prerequisite to any sort of resurgence?
If - after all the work they supposedly did under Barwis this summer and getting no return - RR can keep that group from quitting I will give him a tip of the hat.
Of course, after losing to MSU they will have only one thing left to play for - and that is beating us.
Hey, Auburn did it between the end of the season and the bowl last year. That's going well, isn't it?
If RR to Clemson is all smoke (I think it is) look for RR to Auburn to be the next big rumor if Tommy doesn't turn things around.
In the mean time let's fan the flames of RR to Clemson. Can't help their recruiting if nothing else. I mean, how many transfers and decommits can one coach stand?
It is almost inconceivable that a coach could leave UM after only one season, but transition or no there has to be a bottom to expectations in AA.
They also have 12 Juniors in that two deep. How much of a turn around can be expected in their final season? Particularly when one of those 12 is the QB - a person whose replacement with an incoming Frosh is almost a prerequisite to any sort of resurgence?
If - after all the work they supposedly did under Barwis this summer and getting no return - RR can keep that group from quitting I will give him a tip of the hat.
Of course, after losing to MSU they will have only one thing left to play for - and that is beating us.
Hey, Auburn did it between the end of the season and the bowl last year. That's going well, isn't it?
If RR to Clemson is all smoke (I think it is) look for RR to Auburn to be the next big rumor if Tommy doesn't turn things around.
In the mean time let's fan the flames of RR to Clemson. Can't help their recruiting if nothing else. I mean, how many transfers and decommits can one coach stand?
It is almost inconceivable that a coach could leave UM after only one season, but transition or no there has to be a bottom to expectations in AA.
Upvote
0
ChisAto
Michigan Fan
daveeb;1292366; said:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7KOF05jkXE]YouTube - Antonio Bass Rapes All[/ame]
Sweet grab. He was being called as one who had the potential to be one of the greatest athletes ever in the history of Michigan, so his loss was, and still is indescribable.
But to answer your question, I'd say one; because most Michigan fans would lead to you to believe he could get the local janitor in the Big House, have him meet Barwis, and wallah we have our new Superhuman Robot-Arm QB.
Upvote
0
brutus2002
Legend
Here are a few more questions
How will not making a bowl impact their young players progression going into the spring and next season? The practices you get during this time are valuable for the younger players.
If Michigan were to win 3-4 games how would it affect their OOS commits and prospects as other big programs make a push after the season up till NLOID. Will they have 3-4 decommits...MAYBE MORE? That would be devasting late in the game especially if it were Forcier or Beaver.
How will not making a bowl impact their young players progression going into the spring and next season? The practices you get during this time are valuable for the younger players.
If Michigan were to win 3-4 games how would it affect their OOS commits and prospects as other big programs make a push after the season up till NLOID. Will they have 3-4 decommits...MAYBE MORE? That would be devasting late in the game especially if it were Forcier or Beaver.
Upvote
0
ChisAto
Michigan Fan
brutus2002;1292376; said:
Hurts big time to not have the extra practice time. That's how Alabama did it last year, went 6-6, spent the 15 practices on prefecting Saban's schemes, went out with a nice bowl victory, and bam great start to the season this year so far.
And about decommits, well Forcier is not going to decommit, he comes out all the time essentially saying the QBs suck ("The current QBs they have there can't run their system, but I can"), and so he's licking his chops to come out here in January to work to get the job.. FWIW him and Beaver are both coming to the MSU game (where we have about 15 or so recruits coming to the game) to recruit for Michigan, so I'm not sure if they'll decommit.
The one I'm worried about is DeQuinta Jones though, he committed without ever seeing campus, so he doesn't have the strong ties that the others have. He's actually one of my favorite recruits in this class so it would suck to lose him. I'm pretty happy though, because alot of the recruits this year don't see it as "Michigan sucks, I don't want to go there".. They see "Michigan is lacking playmakers on both sides of the ball, I can come right in, work my ass off, and potentially have a chance at starting/getting some serious PT." So it works both ways.
Upvote
0
schwab
Donkey Punch Ann Arbor
ChisAto;1292401; said:
Depth charts and records, either good or bad, can be a blessing or a curse, depending on the individual recruit. Some of these kids look at the problems and believe that they can and will be the ones to fix them. They see the early PT, and, while not technically avoiding competition, see the possibly quicker road to stardom as the main selling point. This common train of thought leads many stagnant programs back to relevance. Like ChisAto said, it can go the other way though. Many other recruits see the problems as actual problems that won't be fixed in the 4 years they will spend in the program, and would rather learn behind an established player somewhere else. So teams in either category can land amazing recruiting classes, and also less-than-stellar classes.
In the end, coaching is what is going to pay the bills, and the 'Blue' is severely wounded right now.
Upvote
0
http://www.michigandaily.com/node/45558
Sources: Kampfer was hospitalized after attack by football player
Police have a suspect; sources say running back Mike Milano attacked hockey player
By Daily Sports Editor Michael Eisenstein
and Managing Editor Gabe Nelson On October 14th, 2008
Sources say LSA senior Mike Milano, a running back on the Michigan football team, assaulted LSA junior Steve Kampfer, right, a defenseman on the Michigan hockey team.
LSA junior Steve Kampfer, a defenseman on the Michigan hockey team who was injured early Sunday morning in an off-ice incident, incurred his injuries when he was thrown headfirst into the sidewalk by a Michigan football player, sources say.
An eyewitness account and several sources place Kampfer at an assault that took place near the intersection of Church Street and Willard Street at about 2:25 a.m. Sunday.
University Police described the victim as a 20-year-old male University student from Jackson, which fits Kampfer's description on the Athletic Department's website. An LSA senior who witnessed the assault and described it in an interview with the Daily confirmed from photographs that Kampfer was the victim. He asked to remain anonymous for his protection.
Lieutenant Robert Neumann said the victim was picked up and “body-slammed” to the ground by a man, who was accompanied by two other men. Neumann said police have a suspect, whom he described as a 22-year-old male University student from Ohio.
Because the assault is still under investigation and police have not yet arrested a suspect, police would not release the names of the victim and suspects.
Upvote
0
