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2005-2006 Latest Men's Basketball Rankings (Currently #6)

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StadiumDorm said:
I'd be willing to put some mad vCash that Gonzaga, even if they win out and their tourney, is NOT a number 1 seed. The committee has never given them above a 3 even then they've been ranked this high before. Never underestimate the committee. They know what they are talking about. Gonzaga will come into the tourney having not played a decent team since December. You can't substitute the experience of playing a full major conference schedule and how that helps prepare for the tourney. The committee knows that, and Gonzaga will be, at best, a 2-seed.
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Very true....forgot about how the comittee underranks them, then they cry about it, then they lose in the second round :lol:
 
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I like Golfer's 95% vs 5% analogy.

I still think a win vs Purdue and a BTT championship has to get us consideration for a #1 seed even though I doubt we actually get it.

Still a big IF on the BTT title but if we did have that, the regular season title, 4 losses by 15 points total, our poll and RPI ranking, no bad losses, win over SEC champ LSU, road win vs UM and MSU, toughest RPI conference in America....objectively our resume would match up with anyone's.

The practicle part of me says make Gonzaga a "weak" #1 seed and give us the #2 in their bracket. Works out better for us in the end does it not?
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I like Golfer's 95% vs 5% analogy.

I still think a win vs Purdue and a BTT championship has to get us consideration for a #1 seed even though I doubt we actually get it.

Still a big IF on the BTT title but if we did have that, the regular season title, 4 losses by 15 points total, our poll and RPI ranking, no bad losses, win over SEC champ LSU, road win vs UM and MSU, toughest RPI conference in America....objectively our resume would match up with anyone's.

The practicle part of me says make Gonzaga a "weak" #1 seed and give us the #2 in their bracket. Works out better for us in the end does it not?
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Thanks for the clear-headed approach :biggrin:

If we win the conference tourney and Memphis loses, this is the ONLY chance I see us getting a #1 seed. I think being the top #2 seed is almost as good as the weak #1 seed anyway. I don't believe the Zags are going to be getting a #1 seed this year btw Jax...Duke, UConn, Villanova, and Memphis are my guesses.
 
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i dont really care if we get a #1 or #2 seed, yes it would be nice to sneek in there, but staying under the radar will help. less teams will take us seriously and will not scout as hard.

it may also give the players a little more motivation having a lower seed. motivation=wins
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
Yeah, you didn't play Capital, Wittenberg, or Otterbein in-league.....you played them OOC.

Gonzaga has the countries second best player, OSU doesn't. Gonzaga is a media love fest, OSU isn't. Gonzaga is a #1 seed, OSU isn't.
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So, you are not a Buckeye hoop fan? Your post suggests you aren't. Gonzaga is in no way, shape or form a 1 seed.

Ohio State has played a MUCH tougher schedule than Gonzaga. The nonsense that "they can't help being in a weak conference" is just that - nonsense. And the presence of the overrated Adam "The Bad Stache" Morrison is of little consequence, since he is surrounded by generally below-average D1 talent.

Gonzaga has lost one fewer game than tOSU, while playing a ridiculously easy schedule. This fact will not be lost on the seeding committee. We will have a higher seed than the Bulldogs.
 
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Golferdow01 said:
Thanks for the clear-headed approach :biggrin:

If we win the conference tourney and Memphis loses, this is the ONLY chance I see us getting a #1 seed. I think being the top #2 seed is almost as good as the weak #1 seed anyway. I don't believe the Zags are going to be getting a #1 seed this year btw Jax...Duke, UConn, Villanova, and Memphis are my guesses.
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I completely agree with your analysis, Golferdow.

Georgetown is one team I would not be real eager to play in the tourney. They look pretty strong.
 
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MaxBuck said:
So, you are not a Buckeye hoop fan? Your post suggests you aren't. Gonzaga is in no way, shape or form a 1 seed.

Ohio State has played a MUCH tougher schedule than Gonzaga. The nonsense that "they can't help being in a weak conference" is just that - nonsense. And the presence of the overrated Adam "The Bad Stache" Morrison is of little consequence, since he is surrounded by generally below-average D1 talent.

Gonzaga has lost one fewer game than tOSU, while playing a ridiculously easy schedule. This fact will not be lost on the seeding committee. We will have a higher seed than the Bulldogs.
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This isn't football. SoS means almost nothing.
 
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MaxBuck said:
So, you are not a Buckeye hoop fan? Your post suggests you aren't. Gonzaga is in no way, shape or form a 1 seed.

Ohio State has played a MUCH tougher schedule than Gonzaga. The nonsense that "they can't help being in a weak conference" is just that - nonsense. And the presence of the overrated Adam "The Bad Stache" Morrison is of little consequence, since he is surrounded by generally below-average D1 talent.

Gonzaga has lost one fewer game than tOSU, while playing a ridiculously easy schedule. This fact will not be lost on the seeding committee. We will have a higher seed than the Bulldogs.
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I appreciate your props, but I do believe you're being a little hard on Gonzaga as well.

Adam Morrison, I do believe, is the real deal. His shooting is phenomenal, even if you consider his being surrounded by mediocre talent, which I think is better than mediocre. Gonzaga has a recent history of playing well in the tournament and will thus be rewarded with a 2-3 seed this year.
 
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Golferdow01 said:
I appreciate your props, but I do believe you're being a little hard on Gonzaga as well.

Adam Morrison, I do believe, is the real deal. His shooting is phenomenal, even if you consider his being surrounded by mediocre talent, which I think is better than mediocre. Gonzaga has a recent history of playing well in the tournament and will thus be rewarded with a 2-3 seed this year.
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I have no quarrel with awarding Gonzaga with a 3 seed, or even a weak 2. Discussions of their being a one seed are not realistic, though, nor are discussions of their being seeded ahead of the Buckeyes.

As for Gonzaga "playing well" in the Dance, can you tell me how they have performed relative to seeding expectations? (I.e., when have they beaten teams seeded above them as opposed to being beaten by teams with inferior seeds?) I haven't done the research, but my recollection is that they have typically not gone as far in the tourney as their seeds would indicate they should.

I guess my problem is that I do not like "feel-good" stories of underdogs who really are nowhere near as good as the hype they are accorded. Based on the media love they receive, you'd think Gonzaga were the Duke of the West. And they just aren't.
 
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/powerranking?week=17&pollId=1
no idea how this is going to come out format wide but #6 power ranking
Week 17RANKTEAMREC.COMMENT
1Connecticut 26-2 Lost focus after jumping ahead 18-0 on South Florida, but Nova win showed how potent these Huskies can be. If they bring their A-game for three straight weekends, they'll win the national title.
2Duke 27-2 Devils have lost in Tallahassee before and almost lost to FSU at Cameron earlier this season, so the result isn't totally shocking. What was shocking was the 'Noles getting the vast majority of the whistles.
3Villanova 23-3 Not going to beat UConn by shooting 9-of-29 from 3, but you can see where a Nova-type team can give the Huskies some problems. Good news on Allan Ray's knee and a good choice by Curtis Sumpter to redshirt. 4Memphis 26-2 A win Thursday night at UAB could be the death knell for a multi-bid C-USA. Hard to see anyone knocking out the Tigers on their home floor during the conference tourney. Would like to see a crisper performance this week on national TV.
5Gonzaga 25-3 Some people see closer-than-expected wins in the WCC and smell weakness. I don't think the Zags are great, but they take foes' best shots every night out in conference play. Going unbeaten in any league is very hard. Ask Duke.
6Ohio State 22-4 Escaped at Northwestern to move one win away from a solo Big Ten title. This season's a great reward for the players who were shafted out of a postseason berth last season by the university's (premature) self-imposed ban.
7Texas 24-5 Horns didn't get blown out in a loss, but the A&M L including one of the biggest brain-lock moments I can recall. How can you forget there's a shot clock coming out of a timeout called to design a play to get a last-second shot?
8George Washington 25-1 So far, so good without Pops, but the Colonials could be very vulnerable in the NCAAs if they don't get their man in the middle back. Would create even more of a seeding quandary, too.
9Pittsburgh 21-5 UConn and Nova dominate the talk, but the Panthers are quietly lurking, despite the Brawl setback. Can you believe two of West Virginia, Georgetown and Pitt likely will meet in a Big East quarterfinal? Unreal. 10North Carolina 20-6 Heels may be in a tough spot Saturday at Cameron against angry Duke, but UNC has come "Full Circle" in one season and again is a legit NCAA Tourney threat.
11Illinois 24-5 Orange Krush might be one of the nation's best fan sections; took its act to the Barn midweek to cheer on their Illini. Good stuff.
12LSU 21-7 If the Tigers can get mostly healthy (and stay that way), they could be a very dangerous Tourney team. More beef up front than any team besides perhaps UConn, and they played the Huskies to a standstill in Hartford.
13Boston College 23-6 After last season's sluggish end and the 1-3 ACC start, I wrote off the Eagles. Mistake? Looks that way right now. Love to see the underheralded Craig Smith going out in style.
14West Virginia 20-8 The Godfather team of the Power 16: Every time we try to put them out, they keep coming back in. Could whack or be whacked by almost anyone in the NCAAs.
15Kansas 21-7 Probably a little high for KU for my personal taste; 25-point loss at Texas confirmed belief that recent form was Big 12-is-soft-related. That said, this is a young, super-athletic team that could be a dark horse later in March, depending on draw.
16Tennessee 20-6 Well, the "class of the SEC" comment blew up in my face. It feels wrong to be harsh on a team that has vastly outperformed expectations, but losing three of four (and two straight at home) will create some doubts.
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edit: ok i gave up and went back and fixed it
 
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