Captain Buckeye said:

Needs to be everything.

Have to take the wins because otherwise you’ll have programs weighing if it’s worth it. Then you need to punish the program going forward as the real punishment.

For example, if someone steals something from the store and gets caught. You need to take back the stolen goods (the wins) and then you need to put them in jail as a punishment (post season ban).

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buckeyemania11 said:

I honestly could care less about postseason bans, they've already reverted back to mediocrity. Banning them from competing in 3rd rate non playoff bowls does nothing.

They need to hit them where it really hurts and yank that national title.

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johnson2443 said:

I thought they committed to UNC? Or did I make they up in my head ?

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BuckeyeNation27 said:

It's gotta be both. When you get caught stealing, you don't have the option of giving it back OR going to prison. You obtained something illegally that doesn't belong to you. Step one, it gets removed from your possession. Step two, you get punished so YOU learn a lesson, and future assholes see what happens if they want to try the same shit.

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CMic said:

Bet the Reds when they’re 3 games under or worse.
Bet the opponent when the Reds are 1 game over or better.

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Tomateaux Quinoa Gumbeaux said:

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charlohiottean said:

Detroit News article re: ending of the COI hearing.

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