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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

So basically the private equity deal that every one hates is probably the first step to that.
Could be but it doesn’t have to be that exact set up.

Define “everyone” though. If you mean the message boards then whatever, from what I saw of the comments 99% of the haters don’t really understand it. If you mean the schools, then it’s tbd. They had a very specific objection that can be worked on.
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Lebron James (Los Angeles Lakers)

Richard Jefferson's take on Lebron James when they both played for Cleveland....

Richard Jefferson said playing with LeBron "sucks": "Mess up a play, and he's like, 'motherf—er, what are you doing?"​

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Richard Jefferson only played two seasons with LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers. However, LBJ's impact on RJ is lasting. In fact, Jefferson still remembers how it felt to be James' teammate.

According to RJ, playing on the same team with LBJ depends on a player's mindset and attitude. For those who aren't as disciplined and determined as James, it's not fun. On the other hand, it's the opposite for those who have the same goal and work ethic as LeBron.

"Playing with LeBron sucks because you're trying to win a championship," Jefferson said on an episode of the "Road Trippin" podcast. "He is one of the most competitive human beings in the history of American sports and sports in general. Does it suck when you're showing up and he's already been practicing for four hours, and you're like 'oh s—t.' When he's watching film, and you mess up a play, and he's just like, 'motherf—er, what are you doing?"

Jefferson was already on his way out when he joined the Cavs in 2015. The timing was perfect for an aging veteran, as James was on a mission to fulfill his promise, and that was to give Cleveland a championship in his return.

"Which version is the best? Is it the Lakers in 2020? Is it the Miami LeBron? Or Cleveland? Let me tell you this — the Cleveland LeBron; the Cleveland LeBron, those couple of seasons. That was the best basketball I've ever seen a player play in my entire life," Jefferson said.

"The greatest play that I've ever seen — it's the block. It's the block because that's Game 7, he's played every minute, it's the last possible game, it's the last possible minute, and he does an athletic feat of sprinting back. Split-second late and that's goaltending, and it's like, this dude led the series in points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks — in EVERY category,"he added.

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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

I've been laying out the only logical solution I can see for a couple of years now.

Teams-->form league-->teams employ players--> players unionize/CBA

To get that ball rolling, I don't see how you can avoid splitting the teams off into a separate legal entity that has a license deal with the schools to use the team name, colors, logos, stadium etc.

A professional sport just can't stay inside of the academic shell (Title IX/federal funding) anymore.
So basically the private equity deal that every one hates is probably the first step to that.
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

No one is leaving mid season besides trades in the pros cause of collective bargaining. A pure free market people can do whatever the fuck they want. No one wants that. Well maybe some of the kids and their agents do. Imagine Penn State this year and half their players are negotiating deals mid season cause their team fell apart.

Yeah I think that's why they are basically begging congress to step in since like 2020

I've been laying out the only logical solution I can see for a couple of years now.

Teams-->form league-->teams employ players--> players unionize/CBA

To get that ball rolling, I don't see how you can avoid splitting the teams off into a separate legal entity that has a license deal with the schools to use the team name, colors, logos, stadium etc.

A professional sport just can't stay inside of the academic shell (Title IX/federal funding) anymore.
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

No one is leaving mid season and we have had a couple of different MLB players recently threaten to sit out the post season if they were traded somewhere without getting the contract extension they wanted.

I think the sport will be fine, it's the people in the business of sports (especially this bold new world of college sports) that are going to have to come to grips with the reality that the players have the leverage.

To future cast a little bit on your point of a CBE...that is the step after the league forms, is the only employer for your skill set and gets some kind of anti trust exemption as I understand it (not a lawyer). If kids don't form a union, the owners can collude, limit pay and just cut the kid off from the herd. You'll take what we offer because there is no other game in town kind of thing. Google, Amazon etc can't do that
No one is leaving mid season besides trades in the pros cause of collective bargaining. A pure free market people can do whatever the fuck they want. No one wants that. Well maybe some of the kids and their agents do. Imagine Penn State this year and half their players are negotiating deals mid season cause their team fell apart.

Yeah I think that's why they are basically begging congress to step in since like 2020
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

I mean there are many good reasons this model doesn't work for sports. I mean how long would the NFL survive. If Patrick Mahomes could have left for the Seahawks mid season etc etc.

There needs to be some form of contractual compromise for sports to work as whole. Usually that ends in collective bargaining with enforceable rules and contracts. But I'm not sure you will get enough kids to agree when the courts basically have said it's like Google Amazon etc.. why would they give that up and how would you even collectively bargain when makeup of your sport changes so rapidly. What happens 2 years after a contract is struck and it's all new kids and they don't agree with what their forebearers agreed to?

No one is leaving mid season and we have had a couple of different MLB players recently threaten to sit out the post season if they were traded somewhere without getting the contract extension they wanted.

I think the sport will be fine, it's the people in the business of sports (especially this bold new world of college sports) that are going to have to come to grips with the reality that the players have the leverage.

To future cast a little bit on your point of a CBE...that is the step after the league forms, is the only employer for your skill set and gets some kind of anti trust exemption as I understand it (not a lawyer). If kids don't form a union, the owners can collude, limit pay and just cut the kid off from the herd. You'll take what we offer because there is no other game in town kind of thing. Google, Amazon etc can't do that
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

ok, well you are back to the original spot of limiting how/how much a player can get for their NIL then.

That door is already closed. You can't do it. The NCAA has shit to do with it.

If I am a contractor doing work for Google and someone from Apple wants to pay me more and is willing to bonus me the cost of breaking my agreement with Google....you want to have some enforcement over that? I'm supposed to have my earning potential limited?

It's just a legal contract. The player hasn't been sold to the entity that pays him for the use of his NIL. The only recourse is whatever is written in the contract.
I mean there are many good reasons this model doesn't work for sports. I mean how long would the NFL survive. If Patrick Mahomes could have left for the Seahawks mid season etc etc.

There needs to be some form of contractual compromise for sports to work as whole. Usually that ends in collective bargaining with enforceable rules and contracts. But I'm not sure you will get enough kids to agree when the courts basically have said it's like Google Amazon etc.. why would they give that up and how would you even collectively bargain when makeup of your sport changes so rapidly. What happens 2 years after a contract is struck and it's all new kids and they don't agree with what their forebearers agreed to?
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

While I agree with you that it all sounded stupid and unenforceable from the start, this was the result of a court settlement, not just an arbitrary NCAA rule. So I would assume that the district court judge made sure the settlement abided by the Supreme Court ruling.

Yeah we've talked about that. It's weird (like a lot of legal things can be I guess).

To my layman's eyes, it was a naked workaround. Some judge said ok, then someone threatened to sue seemingly day 1 and their lawyers told them not to fight, just rubber stamp.

The judge in the middle is the outlier, as I see it.

:shrug:
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

Many, and I mean many, people knew that idea wouldn't fly from day 1. It's an attempted work around to limit the kids ability to earn. SCOTUS was very clear on this.

I remember the conversation here about it and feeling that anyone who tried to play by those "rules" was just being a dumbass. Looks like our Prez/AD/whoever may be on the dumbass list.
While I agree with you that it all sounded stupid and unenforceable from the start, this was the result of a court settlement, not just an arbitrary NCAA rule. So I would assume that the district court judge made sure the settlement abided by the Supreme Court ruling.
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

It was supposed to if you read the house settlement.

Basically they were trying to cap pay for play for 20.5M, that can come from the schools and/or NIL collectives. Students are allowed to get additional NIL beyond that if it was doing legitimate advertising work and it can’t be tied to playing for a certain school.

They set up the clearinghouse to make sure that the NIL money students get over that amount is for legitimate work and at the market rate (you can’t get $1M from a local dealership by doing one appearance).

It appears as though the commission is rubber stamping most of the deals. I also wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of deals forget to be submitted (who is going to police it) or are being made and then the money never shows up.

Many, and I mean many, people knew that idea wouldn't fly from day 1. It's an attempted work around to limit the kids ability to earn. SCOTUS was very clear on this.

I remember the conversation here about it and feeling that anyone who tried to play by those "rules" was just being a dumbass. Looks like our Prez/AD/whoever may be on the dumbass list.
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Sports Marketing: Learfield & Ohio State

Just sayin': It looks like Ohio State is looking for a Jersey patch sponsor for 2026....

Ohio State Planning to Sell Jersey Patch Sponsorship As Part of New Deal with Learfield

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Sponsored jersey patches could be coming soon to Ohio State’s uniforms.

As part of its announcement on Wednesday that it had agreed to a multimedia rights contract extension with Ohio State, Learfield revealed that Ohio State is “engaging brands that are highly interested in pursuing a jersey patch partnership with Ohio State in anticipation of the NCAA rule change.”

“As one of the most celebrated schools in college athletics, boasting 36 sports, a jersey patch opportunity with Ohio State would represent one of the most highly coveted sponsor partnerships in college sports,” Learfield wrote in its news release.

Sponsored jersey patches could be coming to college sports as soon as the 2026-27 season. Sports Business Journal reported last week that the NCAA’s Division I Cabinet is slated to discuss allowing sponsored jersey patches during competition at next week’s NCAA Convention. While no vote on the potential rule change has been scheduled yet, there is “optimism” that sponsored jersey patches will be allowed next season, according to SBJ.

Multiple schools have already sold jersey patch sponsorships in anticipation of the change. LSU agreed to a jersey patch deal with Woodside Energy* in October, while UNLV announced last month that it had struck a deal with Acesso Biologics to be its first official jersey patch partner.

Wednesday’s announcement comes as part of a contract extension between Ohio State and Learfield, a college sports marketing company that works with many of the biggest brands in college sports. Per SBJ, Ohio State’s new deal with Learfield “includes a three-year extension through 2036 and will see the parties enter a revenue sharing relationship designed for Ohio State and Learfield to capitalize on one of college sports’ most prominent brands and sponsorship machines.”

“It’s a critical juncture in college athletics, and this is the ideal time to lock arms with Learfield, to continue to provide best in class opportunities and lead Ohio State Athletics for a long time into the future,” Ohio State athletic director Ross Bjork said in a statement. “Learfield’s expertise brings a full range of capabilities that allow us to continue to maximize the largest sponsorship program in the country through even more commercial activity that impacts revenue and further capitalize through innovative sponsorships and NIL strategies, which help strengthen our entire athletics program. We are proud to continue our long-term affiliation and transformational partnership with Learfield and continue to maximize the Ohio State brand power here in Ohio and across the country.”
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* https://frontofficesports.com/lsu-signs-multimillion-dollar-jersey-patch-deal-before-ncaa-approval/

LSU Signs Multimillion-Dollar Jersey Patch Deal Before NCAA Approval​

Just sayin': Silly me, I thought Nike was the jersey sponsor. In addition to the B1G patch, you play in a bowl game like the Cotton Bowl, now you have a Goodyear patch. Before too long the jerseys are going to look like something in NASCAR......:lol: OK, besides "Chico's Bail Bonds"...:lol: who do you think would be a good jersey patch sponsor?
Columbus Solid Gold?
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

That's for the schools themselves to pay, isn't it? Was there anything banning outside collectives/forces from paying players on top of it?
It was supposed to if you read the house settlement.

Basically they were trying to cap pay for play for 20.5M, that can come from the schools and/or NIL collectives. Students are allowed to get additional NIL beyond that if it was doing legitimate advertising work and it can’t be tied to playing for a certain school.

They set up the clearinghouse to make sure that the NIL money students get over that amount is for legitimate work and at the market rate (you can’t get $1M from a local dealership by doing one appearance).

It appears as though the commission is rubber stamping most of the deals. I also wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of deals forget to be submitted (who is going to police it) or are being made and then the money never shows up.
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