It's 4:44. Is Flake o still upright?

Buckeye doc said:

Has the CheatersUpNorthTeam kept Sharon around long enough to pretend he wasn't kept just to be the fall guy? It's a delicate balance to be sure.

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They aren't gonna finish with a bad enough record to justify a firing this year. Hard to see them going less than 8-4 with what's left on their schedule. Which is technically an improvement even though I think this team overall is not as good as last years 7-5 bunch. I think the higher ups involved with the university are likely well aware that they dodged a bullet getting off with a relative slap on the wrist for their cheating. They will likely take their tainted title and be ok with a return to 8 maybe 9 wins being a "good season" for them.

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buckeyemania11 said:

Underwood's sideline demeanor is about what you'd expect from a guy who's only at a place because they wrote the biggest check. Goofing and laughing giving the appearance that he could care less that the team was getting their ass kicked.

He could develop into a decent QB the tools are objectively there, but that's not gonna happen at scUM.

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Hes been seen all over town in his corvette, so the check cashed. Hes not getting paid by the W
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ScriptOhio said:

With Rhule, Cignetti off the list, who are the top candidates for Penn State

Penn State is looking for a new coach, but lost two targets. It's still one of the best in the cycle.

www.espn.com

Penn State fires James Franklin: Top candidates, transfers and recruits​

Nebraska coach Matt Rhule
Indiana coach Curt Cignetti
Iowa State coach Matt Campbell
Duke coach Manny Diaz
UNLV coach Dan Mullen

Top 5 Penn State coaching candidates after firing James Franklin

Following the firing of James Franklin, Penn State has a lot of options to replace Franklin, including an internal hire

nittanylionswire.usatoday.com

Top 5 Penn State coaching candidates after firing James Franklin​

Nebraska coach Matt Rhule
Ped State associate coach Terry Smith
Indiana coach Curt Cignetti
Iowa State coach Matt Campbell
Duke coach Manny Diaz



Just sayin': If they strike out with Cignetti, anyone think that they would actually go after Matt Rhule?

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I'm thinking the big payoff boat sailed years ago on Rhule and Campbell. Had their chance and stayed instead.

Is Franklin's firing an opportunity to right a wrong with this recruitment?

Jaxbuck said:

To be fair to him, they weren't only losing 1-2 games a year when he got there.

Put him someplace with a different level of program self awareness/expectations and he's a solid coach I'm sure.

He is still an asshat and big game choke job artist but he could absolutely have a good run at a Baylor or whatnot.

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Just sayin': Yeah, he was a (fairly) "solid coach" at Vandy (for 3 years*); which is undoubtedly why Ped State hired him. However, if you look at his record at Ped State he never did achieve the "eliteness" Ped State wanted. The only year he won the B1G Championship, he still was 11-3 (8-1), lost the Rose Bowl, and finished #7 in the polls.

* at least he had a higher overall winning percentage (i.e .615) than most of Vandy's previous coaches over the last century (but the bar really wasn't all that high) .....

Mike80 said:

I don't consider Florida a top end P5 gig though, despite what they may think of themselves.

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Yeah it's subjective. I was just thinking you know take the SEC/Big and 3-4 others and is Florida a top half of that pile gig?

By that criteria, I'd say "yes" but I get their light heavyweight classification. A lot like Penn State really.

Steve19 said:

Evil Ryan was emerging already at the end of the game this week.

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Playing 4-D chess.

Zippercat said:

In case anyone has forgotten the details, Jimmy signed a 3 year deal with Ped St at $3.1M/year plus over $1M year in bonus levels. Roughly a 50% raise from what he was paid at Ohio State.

Jim Knowles contract: New Penn State defensive coordinator can eclipse $4 million with lucrative bonuses

Already boasting the largest salary among college football assistants, Knowles' contract allows him to hit astronomical numbers

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Safe to assume that most of the other Pedster assistants, consultants, analysts and such are also on multi year contracts? The cost of replacing Franklin will be way more than just his contract, unless they hire someone crazy enough to keep most of Franklin’s staff.

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This.

Jaxbuck said:

I don't think he's getting another top end P5 gig after this debacle (Florida).

If Saban was still coaching he could do a year in his boot camp for failed HC's and then look. As it is, I think he's on track for a lower tier P5 like the others you listed.

Oregon State just fired their guy but I don't know who in their right mind would want that job.

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I don't consider Florida a top end P5 gig though, despite what they may think of themselves.

Nebraska loses.

You heard it here first!

Buckeye1 said:

I have two in 25A row 16 - around the 10 yard line. $1000 for both!

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$200 for both?

Setting aside my visceral distaste for their cult, just looking at football: is this really a big time destination job anymore?

Not really an NFL factory, located in a bad spot. I mean a bad fucking spot. glory days were in the century that stated with a 19 but a fanbase that thinks they are as good/dominant a brand as OSU.

All the pressure of a top 5 job but what advantages?

buckeyemania11 said:

Underwood's sideline demeanor is about what you'd expect from a guy who's only at a place because they wrote the biggest check. Goofing and laughing giving the appearance that he could care less that the team was getting their ass kicked.

He could develop into a decent QB the tools are objectively there, but that's not gonna happen at scUM.

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I dunno. His delivery reminds me of Pryor. 3 years at Ohio State didn't change that sidearm passing motion, and it worked against him in the pros.

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“Everyone knows the rules.”

pnuts34 said:

Haynes is a majority of their offense, Marshall did the best he could. But they're too 1 dimensional. And as good as Underwood can look at times his WRs just aren't that good. They're very inconsistent.
Welp

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Hate to say this. My Moeller buddies tell me Marshall was a great kid, solid student, good attitude. But he was getting beat up by the end of that game. I don't think he's big enough to be the main dog in a Michigan offense.

Mike80 said:

I could see him going somewhere like Arky or Baylor or Oklahoma State. I don't think he'll go out to the west coast, he's an east coast guy.

I think Florida could be in play as well when they can Napier.

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I don't think he's getting another top end P5 gig after this debacle (Florida).

If Saban was still coaching he could do a year in his boot camp for failed HC's and then look. As it is, I think he's on track for a lower tier P5 like the others you listed.

Oregon State just fired their guy but I don't know who in their right mind would want that job.

ScriptOhio said:

With Rhule, Cignetti off the list, who are the top candidates for Penn State

Penn State is looking for a new coach, but lost two targets. It's still one of the best in the cycle.

www.espn.com

Penn State fires James Franklin: Top candidates, transfers and recruits​

Nebraska coach Matt Rhule
Indiana coach Curt Cignetti
Iowa State coach Matt Campbell
Duke coach Manny Diaz
UNLV coach Dan Mullen

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Please make it be Dan Mullen.

I know this is a top job and all, but would it be a good situation. The school has gone to the donors for part of the funding of the stadium renovation. They are going to have to come up with the buyout money. They will have to come up with buyout money for the new coach to leave their current position. How many donors are going to be willing to give more of their money to NIL? James Franklin and Penn State have always been out of the top 10 in team talent composition and most of the current talent is not going to be there next year.

BB73 said:

There have been at least 10 of them in the 100 years since the live turtle died.

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Can’t believe that didn’t just petrify the original turtle. What happened to tradition???

Loved seeing Smith in at the goaline with 3 TEs. Makes it a lot harder to commit to the run. Great release too. Needs more touches but that’s nothing new.

On pace for 80/1010/14, and he’s due for a few big games before the end of the regular season.

Thump said:

Matt Rhule.

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Straight into bed with another guy that has, shall we say, big game "tendencies"?

Oh please make it so

I could see him going somewhere like Arky or Baylor or Oklahoma State. I don't think he'll go out to the west coast, he's an east coast guy.

I think Florida could be in play as well when they can Napier.

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If you sign a shitburger deal, be man enough to belly up to the table and have a bite when it goes against you.



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