dragurd said:

Yeahhh the amusing part is some of their fans are like if this was known how could Harbaugh recommend him. Acting like it was warde Manuel that pushed Harbaugh away and he still loves the program.

News flash Harbaugh was about one thing and only one thing Harbaugh,

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Yeah, he never forgave the university for telling him he was too stupid to major in history. They were never anything more than a path back to the NFL for him, and he could care less about the wreckage he left in his mongoloid wake.

This just keeps getting better and better...

Steve19 said:

I think that, given trends in the US, we must admit with regret that Harbaugh played this about as well as he could. He disgusts me, but he played the game legally as best he could according to the outcomes he wanted, and he showed that "a real Michigan Man" could care less what happened to TCUN or college football for that matter. Still, he comes out the other end with a great pay packet and a job in a sunny place and I wonder what he sees when he looks in the mirror.

The is no better example of scUM that I can think of. For years here, I cautioned that we shouldn't characterize that team like that. I was wrong.

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To the mirror question, he sadly sees a great guy. That simple fuck has no introspection or inner dialogue. I promise you there is zero chance the he feels an iota of guilt, regret or shame. He's utterly incapable of it.

buckeyemania11 said:

This guy has....issues....lots of them....

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He's psycho and he isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.

Gunlife said:

So let me get this straight. You want to gift wrap 4 and 5 star players that OSU has invested millions into and give them to a coach that has been learning the inner workings of your organization for almost a decade? Also at that point all those 4 and 5 star guys will have a chip on there shoulders...

You guys can't be this nieve in your day to day life

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Players are going to make their own choices anyway. Nobody’s talking about gift wrapping anything to anyone, but yes, I’d rather see high talent players that we can’t keep regardless go to a non-P4 school that we’re unlikely to play than to have them in our conference and on our schedule. Also, attracting and keeping good assistants and players is to a large extent a reputation and relationship business, and if you play the ass too much word gets around and maybe the next Hartline that we could have had chooses to start climbing the ladder somewhere else.

Finally, let’s hold off a bit before acting like Hartline at USF is the next Saban at Alabama. Competitive fire is great, but his WR coaching genius doesn’t seem to have fully transferred to the OC level and now he’s stepping up again and has to build a staff and deal with all the other crap that comes with being a head coach. I think he’ll be pretty successful, but he might also be the latest in a long line of examples of the Peter Principle.

SEREbuckeye said:

Yes because USF has always been a juggernaut we’ve competed against for recruits.

You’re right about UCFs rise under Frost. And now they still aren’t a threat. How many big recruiting battles have we lost to these schools?

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We are talking about a guy that is considered one of the greatest assistant coach recruiters of all time. But, your right if he about to get a 5 star reciever, he will just call up Day and offer him up.

Again remember this guy took the job when OSU is tyring to go back to back. And thats OK, but he doesn't deserve OSUs backing anymore

Treat him right. Maybe it will be out farm team in south Florida.

And I understand that the purpose of the last meeting was NOT to fire, but to discuss steps to address the issue.

Gunlife said:

If you dont think USF can compete your crazy. Shit just 5 years ago UCF was always in the running for the playoffs. FL has talent everywhere and the population has exploded over the last 5 years. I will be shocked if USF isn't a top 15 team in 2 years

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Yes because USF has always been a juggernaut we’ve competed against for recruits.

You’re right about UCFs rise under Frost. And now they still aren’t a threat. How many big recruiting battles have we lost to these schools?

Jagdaddy said:

Top shelf talent that USF is unlikely to land in lieu of us, yes, but not so much the in-state developmental high ceiling prospects that a decent USF program can keep away from the the bigger conference Florida schools that OSU is more likely to run into and that we tend to get from Ohio (#specialpowers). As for transfers, I’d rather see strong talent that can’t quite see the field much for us, steered out of the Big Ten. E.g., if Lincoln Kienholz decides to seek more opportunity elsewhere, I’d rather see him at USF than at some place like MSU, PSU, or UW.

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So let me get this straight. You want to gift wrap 4 and 5 star players that OSU has invested millions into and give them to a coach that has been learning the inner workings of your organization for almost a decade? Also at that point all those 4 and 5 star guys will have a chip on their shoulders...

You guys can't be this nieve in your day to day life

Jaxbuck said:

Yeah they need to look at all of it. Play designs, tendencies, personnel groups, game plans the lot.

They can’t do anything about the IOL at this point, that’s the only structural issue.

The rest is coaching really and to be fair, I have little to no doubt they can do it. Coaching offensive football has never been a bitch of mine about Day.

If I am generalizing, Redzone stuff and place kicking have been the weaknesses that show up with some level of consistency over his tenure.

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Don’t forget punt returning, although that seems to finally be at least competent over the last few weeks.

Yeah they need to look at all of it. Play designs, tendencies, personnel groups, game plans the lot.

They can’t do anything about the IOL at this point, that’s the only structural issue.

The rest is coaching really and to be fair, I have little to no doubt they can do it. Coaching offensive football has never been a bitch of mine about Day.

If I am generalizing, Redzone stuff and place kicking have been the weaknesses that show up with some level of consistency over his tenure.

ORD_Buckeye said:

Urban's shaking his damned head thinking, "I took the wrong dream job."

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OSU overreacted and scUM will do nothing at all. It’s crazy to me that people can’t find middle ground.

RugbyBuck said:

I’ve had a chance to breathe now, and scum imploding has been a nice bonus. I’d like to see these clowns again in the CFP final. I think they played their best and we played if not our worst, close to it and lost by three. I don’t see us taking them lightly and that happening again.

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As much as it sucked losing to these asshats, I felt that are chances of repeating as Natty Champs went up. Wake up call .....

Since it’s roughly Xmas-time, my grandmother would say, “Y’all listen here, that boy’s about to throw them moneychangers out the temple, you hear?”

Jaxbuck said:

Dr Demento…..now there is a blast from the past. Wow.

Love it

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+1

Gunlife said:

We dont get any recruits from FL? Wtf are you talking about. Listen I wish the world was a better place. Its not. Go read about all the crazy shenanigans that happen while these 18year olds are being recruited, its nuts.

I wish Hartline well, sincerely, but it's sink or swim for him. Thats just the nature of the beast.

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Top shelf talent that USF is unlikely to land in lieu of us, yes, but not so much the in-state developmental high ceiling prospects that a decent USF program can keep away from the the bigger conference Florida schools that OSU is more likely to run into and that we tend to get from Ohio (#specialpowers). As for transfers, I’d rather see strong talent that can’t quite see the field much for us, steered out of the Big Ten. E.g., if Lincoln Kienholz decides to seek more opportunity elsewhere, I’d rather see him at USF than at some place like MSU, PSU, or UW.

Gunlife said:

Everyone in division 1 ball is our enemy man. Every team out there can take recruits. You need to be a fucking savage to compete at this level. I was hoping Day had become a hardcore savage after that loss to TTUN last year. I hope I am right.

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Lol, no they aren't. The lion doesn't concern themselves with the goings on of the sheep. Nobody has the energy to have 300+ enemies.