Take the name off the jersey.

I just saw a major college level QB, at the end of his first full year that still won’t set his feet to throw a forward pass.

Just stop there.

Either zero coaching or zero learning but can’t is the same net effect as won’t.

Forget his ceiling/athleticism/moxy etc. How do you project something positive in the future for a student who can’t handle Subject 101?

osuvictory1 said:

Yeah, but it is definitely no secret he is climbing, and will eventually leave. Add the bag, and a kid can substantiate a different move.

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Again, you can say that almost anywhere now. Theres rumors that Lincoln Riley is starting to want out, and that's the other favorite along with Oregon(who just lost their OC to UK).

CincyInterloper said:

Getting fired by Penn State may be the best thing that ever happened to Franklin.

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Ironic that there has been a more direct blowback and negative impact to the success of their football program for firing James Franklin than the Sandusky scandal.

I always felt like this pos program should’ve been totally nuked for that and they got a slap on the wrist imo

Zem said:

They just pulled the plug on OSU's comms. Malicious cheating, plain and simple. Their Harbaughitis infection continues to grow and further corrupt the program.
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It's not harbaughitis. That's giving that fucktard too much credit.

It's the institution. From aiding and abetting Harbaugh, to the rampant non-stop arrogance to their clown college importing Chinese super-fungii and falling foul of the feds, that whole place is rotten to its very core.

ORD_Buckeye said:

Meanwhile in James Franklin's VaTech office...

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Getting fired by Penn State may be the best thing that ever happened to Franklin.

Michigan Wolverines fans should be infuriated over embarrassing failures in rivalry loss to Ohio State Buckeyes​

Sherrone Moore and company failed in every way imaginable as Bryce Underwood couldn’t get anything going in Michigan’s 27-9 loss



The Michigan Wolverines’ streak of four victories over the Ohio State Buckeyes ended on Saturday as Ryan Day and his stacked roster manhandled Sherrone Moore’s squad on Saturday, 27-9. Michigan looked like they were going to repeat their physical dominance on the team’s opening drive, but after that the Wolverines didn’t seem to have much of an answer for anything. Michigan fans should be infuriated over all the embarrassing failures in what should have been a much closer rivalry game. What were those ridiculous failures? Let’s dive in.

Michigan Wolverines failures against Ohio State​

• The Michigan Wolverines managed just 163 yards to Ohio State’s 419 in “The Game” on Saturday
• Michigan’s offense converted just one third down on nine attempts and failed to convert their only fourth down try
• Michigan’s defense allowed five explosive plays of 23 yards or more by five different Ohio State players
• Bryce Underwood managed just 3.5 yards per pass attempt as Wolverines wide receivers were blanketed in coverage, completely helpless all game long

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cincibuck said:

No fan of the SEC, especially Texass and Bama, but if Texas gets left out, you can bet their AD is on the phone cancelling the game with the Buckeyes. I don't think Day would mind that either.

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Yeah, that loss to OSU is what sank them. Not the loss to a team that finished 4-8 overall and 2-6 in their conference. That was a good loss to an SEC team nobody wants to play.

Meanwhile in James Franklin's VaTech office...

Yeah, there are no excuses for his performance in The Game. He was the #1 overall recruit and enrolled early. I'm not saying he should have performed like Sayin, but there is no reasonable way to excuse his complete lack of development by season's end. Whether he's overrated ass like Arch, it's Moore's backward ass coaching or a combination of both, you just hate to see it.

SEREbuckeye said:

Super Sayin!

No updates, just a dope picture I saw on The Dispatch.

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man... how can people so easily screw up the Dragon Ball references.... this looks like a cross between Star Wars with a tiny hint of Dragon Ball

Can anyone cue the Titanic theme song?

BB73 said:

Bump.

This young man played a very solid game yesterday. Thanks for the work put in, Tegra.

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Tegra Tshabola​

Among the offensive linemen, I wanted to specifically highlight right guard Tegra Tshabola. The man has made multiple appearances in Stock Down this year. On Saturday, he turned in probably the best performance of his career. The coaching staff never took him off the field as a result, rather than rolling him with Joshua Padilla or Gabe VanSickle as they normally have this year. He road-graded all day and stood as a stalwart in pass protection. Just watch him perform a clinical trap block on star Michigan defensive end Derrick Moore, head upfield to seal, springing Isaiah West for a 14-yard gain. Gorgeous execution.

Oh8ch said:

Absolutely agree.

The 2002 team may have been the least deserving NC in history. If six plays had gone a different way that team ccould have finished .500. And any of you young pups who aren't familiar with how those games played out you owe it to yourselves to do some research.*

But those plays didn't go the other way and that was an incredible year.

*I refreshed my own memory so here is a brief recap:

Scored with 4 minutes left against Cincinnati to win by 4.
Scored the only TD of the second half in the 4th quarter to beat Wisconsin by 5.
Needed a Chris Gamble interception return (which could have been called for interference) to beat PSU BY 6.
If you aren't familiar with "Holy Buckeye" against Purdue why are you even here? That was a 4th and ball game call to win by 4.
Beat Illinois by 7 - in frickin OT.
Intercepted a pass in the endzone with one second left to beat UM by 5. And this after taking the lead with less than 5 minutes remaining.
And the tension in the Fiesta Bowl itself was beyond description. The McGahee injury, the Doss interception, the Dorsey funble, the Clarett strip, the holding on Gamble. Just a few of the plays that decided that game.

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Least deserving? Are you drunk? Great teams finish, which is was the 2002 team did every freaking week. They also beat three top ten teams, and i know that Purdue wasn't highly ranked in 2002, but that team was STACKED with talent. They had 9 guys drafted in 2004, which was the same amount as the freaking Miami Hurricanes, who, let's not forget, were riding a 31 game winning streak and were 12 point favorites in that Fiesta Bowl. It took some fucking AWFUL officiating for them to even make it to overtime against the Buckeyes.

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Sorry, but I disagree.

Between Texas and UM my blood pressure never got above 120. If PSU and Illinois had played their roles I might agree. But just a bunch of scrimmage games on most Saturdays. Who wants to test drive a Lamorghini thru a school zone?

Now the next few weeks - that's a different story.

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Or maybe Ohio State really is that much better than everyone else.

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Down Bad In Ann Arbor​

Believe it or not, I actually have been keeping an eye on things Up North. You can take the dude out of Threat Level but you can't take Threat Level out of the dude, and I've habitually watched pretty much every Michigan game this season with a special focus on a certain quarterback named Bryce Underwood.

Underwood has enormous potential and an enormous price tag, and in a freshman year in which he was pretty much Michigan's only option, he was fine. He was fine! Often he was worse, and rarely he was better, and that's how it played out on Saturday, too. Hell, that's the whole team: kinda good, sometimes. But also weirdly ass? About halfway through the 3rd quarter, Underwood rifled a pass to receiver Donaven McCulley for 26 yards, a throw that was impeccably timed and required elite arm strength to even attempt. You can imagine a version of Michigan that combines smashmouth football with a guy who can make throws like that and think "damn, okay."



And then rewatching it after the fact, you notice that a) the pass was into triple coverage, b) was followed by a pass for zero yards, a rush for zero yards, and an incompletion, c) was part of a drive capped by an 11-yard punt, and d) less than a minute later Julian Sayin hit a 50-yard bomb to Carnell Tate to put the game on ice. Yeah, Michigan is dealing with some key injuries, especially in the run game. But so much of what they do relies on slamming their heads against a wall and looking for a crack.

Bryce Underwood could, with decent coaching, evolve into a really great quarterback. Michigan could, with decent coaching, maintain a position as one of the top five or six best teams in the United States. I can't see it happening with Sherrone Moore and company, who seem hellbent on crafting a bespoke college football program made from fifty thousand variations of a single bash run play.

The Game will always be weird and have unpredictable outcomes because it exists in a dimension of paint fumes and coked-up opossums with knives taped to their paws. I've learned to accept that.

But I've seen the future of the Michigan Wolverines and it has a ceiling of losing in the first round of the CFP on the road at Tulane.

AuTX Buckeye said:

Heard some stuff yesterday that super Agent Jimmy Sexton is basically giving PSU the finger for “how” (their words not mine) they did his client (Franklin) wrong. So he’s steering his other clients away from PSU. Lol

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@Thump is that bad?

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Right?! Horry out here catching strays

The content creator has some of the best one-liners. Looking forward to his playoff videos.