Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[Naplesbuckeye]

Yahoo is a major news source, not a group of internet journalists blogging from their parents' basement. And what you said about the stories that come out with hard evidence certainly doesn't apply to Yahoo. They've done a good job with their reporting. I can't recall any stories of this magnitude that they ran without evidence.

Again, I hope I'm wrong. I'd love for Yahoo to go against all the other major stories I've seen the write and publish one without much evidence - I just find it very unlikely based on what they've done so far.

I think we're all on the same page here. This sucks, we hope it's not true and we'd be surprised if Tressel lied.

EDIT: Just saw your edit. I'll respect Yahoo's legitimacy until they give me a reason not to (like ESPN). I'm hoping this story is the reason.

I think many people trust yahoo so far....but with tabloid journalists like Sportsbybrooks, Bleacher Report etc...not to mention people like Hooley, Schelbaugh, Bianchi etc...well....it is harder and harder to respect journalists....at least in my opinion.

 

[scarletngray]

Hard to see Tress covering anything up. It's more likely that Yahoo's source is lying and has an axe to grind. Maybe it was "Mr. So and So"...

:osu:

 

[SCBuck13]

Well, then maybe the journalist should show some integrity and not run the story. One unnamed source, zero hard evidence, and no chance for Ohio State to respond - but you see no problem with that?

According to a release by Yahoo, Ohio State was notified 3 hours beforehand, and given time to respond.

EDIT: here's where that was reported, courtesy of jwinslow

YahooSportsNFL
Reports that we gave Ohio State only 30 mins to respond to the Tressel piece are categorically false. They had three hours before it posted.
half a minute ago via Twittelator

 

[billmac91]

For anyone doubting this story, would it really be shocking to learn JT was told in passing there might be something going down with a tattoo artist in Columbus?

How does he even get to the bottom of that if whoever told him doesn't have close ties to the program anymore or at all really? Are you going to suspend players while uncovering an out of the blue accusation you've never heard before?

And what if it was so unassuming you never gave it second thought until the US Attorney's office was at the university?

There are a lot of variables at play here.

In the end, I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle. I believe Yahoo is running a legit story in their eyes, and I believe JT is a man who always tries to do the right thing.

But let's be honest here...Antonio Pittman made a comment right after tattoo gate that players have been doing that for years and Thad stated players have been given compliance education up and down since stepping foot on campus. Comments like those perk up a reporters ears and open up all sorts of avenues for journalists to find dirt.

 

[Naplesbuckeye]

Not only Yahoo has its credibility on the line...so does Dan Wetzel. Even if Yahoo goes the way of the dodo, Wetzel is going to need another job. If he wants a decent job he will need some level of credibility. Lobbing a serious accusation at an otherwise well-regarded coach of a major program is not going to help that case.

I don't think editors or publishers care about credibility anymore...whatever sells baby.

 

[DiaBuckeye]

THIS JUST IN:

During a recent investigation launched on your house while you were in class today, an unnamed source has revealed that I have [censored]ed your mother. Said source went on to say that we used your bed and she cooked me pancakes afterwards.

Come on guys, let's be real.

Do any of you seriously think that JT would do this? The man is by the book and always has been. EVEN IF a source gets named, it is him vs. JT. Insert whatever disgruntled player/rival school affiliate/made up name into that battle, and JT will always win.

 

[3074326]

Well, then maybe the journalist should show some integrity and not run the story. One unnamed source, zero hard evidence, and no chance for Ohio State to respond - but you see no problem with that?

This isn't even a response to what I said.

If the story is based on a lousy source, no evidence and OSU didn't have a chance to respond, it would be awful reporting and Yahoo would take a huge credibility hit. Why would they do this? It just doesn't make any sense.

I've already said I'd be surprised if Yahoo didn't have evidence, and OSU had three hours to respond. I've said plenty about unnamed sources, and whether or not we think the journalist should've showed "integrity" and not ran the story is irrelevant.

 

[Meyer]

Understandable, but I don't think this is an example of a journalist being cowardly and hiding behind a source. Sounds like a source being cowardly and hiding behind a journalist. Yahoo only brings its credibility into question by citing an unnamed source, which is why I think there's actually something wrong here. I think it was billmac who speculated that it might be an old player/disgruntled player or something.. that makes a lot of sense.

The good thing is that if there is some meat there.. we'll probably find out who the source is. The bad news is that means there's meat. Yahoo would just come off looking terrible by running this with nothing. I don't see the point in that.

Yeah that is likely true. Yahoo probably would not have ran the story without a great source. However, this also means that Yahoo should probably have other evidence if they are running the story because right now their credibility is riding on the credibility and honesty of their source. So either Yahoo shouldn't have ran the story or there is more to come out.

 

[3074326]

So either Yahoo shouldn't have ran the story or there is more to come out.

This pretty much sums up everything I've been trying to say in this thread in once sentence. Just ignore all the words I've typed and read this one sentence for my thoughts on the issue.

 

[Mike80]

Not only Yahoo has its credibility on the line...so does Dan Wetzel. Even if Yahoo goes the way of the dodo, Wetzel is going to need another job. If he wants a decent job he will need some level of credibility. Lobbing a serious accusation at an otherwise well-regarded coach of a major program is not going to help that case.

Jay Marrioti had a job until he beat the shit out of his girlfriend.
The perception of integrity is more important than actually having it. apologies to Numby, but "journalists" are akin to politicians anymore.

 

[LordJeffBuck]

According to a release by Yahoo, Ohio State was notified 3 hours beforehand, and given time to respond. Not sure why they did not respond, however

Three hours? Do you honestly think that three hours is enough time to formulate a proper response, given all of the people who have to be notified and provide their input, including the Ohio State legal team? The Yahoos were apparently investigating the story for two months, yet they give Ohio State three hours to respond. I'm just glad that public prosecutors aren't allowed to operate on such patently unfair terms.

 

[WoodyWorshiper]

Just a hunch, but I think this thing is going to get REALLY bad. I'm basically a positive person, but I see no positives here. Coach Hayes being dismissed in 1978 to me, was the darkest day in TOSU football history. This could end up being a real close #2. I sure as heck hope not.

Urban Meyer? C'Mon Down?

 

[SCBuck13]

Three hours? Do you honestly think that three hours is enough time to formulate a proper response, given all of the people who have to be notified and provide their input, including the Ohio State legal team? The Yahoos were apparently investigating the story for two months, yet they give Ohio State three hours to respond. I'm just glad that public prosecutors aren't allowed to operate on such patently unfair terms.

No, not at all. Just saying that they were given a chance to respond, albeit a very small amount of time.

 

[Naplesbuckeye]

Three hours? Do you honestly think that three hours is enough time to formulate a proper response, given all of the people who have to be notified and provide their input, including the Ohio State legal team? The Yahoos were apparently investigating the story for two months, yet they give Ohio State three hours to respond. I'm just glad that public prosecutors aren't allowed to operate on such patently unfair terms.

According to the Lesmires piece....apparently Tressel was at a book signing in Columbus when this broke tonight.

 

[BearBuck27]

So either Yahoo shouldn't have ran the story or there is more to come out.

Nail meeting head. I think EVERYBODY agrees with this point.