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CHU;1886832; said:
I honestly just realized that due to JT calling majority of the plays on offense, there's that huge void during the suspension.

I really hope there will be drills upon drills for whoever is taking over playcalling during the suspension.
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Bollman has been with Tressel for years and years, I don't expect their play calling to differ much. They do work as a team in general (with Hazell previously) to call the plays in normal conditions. I think that should be just about last on the list of concerns in all honesty.
 
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JBaney45;1886838; said:
Bollman has been with Tressel for years and years, I don't expect their play calling to differ much. They do work as a team in general (with Hazell previously) to call the plays in normal conditions. I think that should be just about last on the list of concerns in all honesty.
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I believe the format was: Bollman sends the play down to the sideline, Tressel would say yes or no and send it onto the field. I imagine he said 'yes' a majority of the time (when he said no would be the times we had trouble avoiding delays of game... which happened from time to time in most games).

So I agree, I don't think play calling or style will be much different in the absence of Tressel.
 
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With Cicero being a former player while Tressel was an assistant, I believe that JT was not only protecting the players on the team but also Cicero himself. For an attorney to disclose information regarding a Federal Investigation could result in the attorney being in hot water. I believe that JT was in protect mode of current and former player. Doesn't make it right but makes it easier to understand. As a parent, I understand the protection. I wish the kids and Cicero wouldn't have put him in the position.
 
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Sheesh

Scarlet&GreyFvr;1886874; said:
With Cicero being a former player while Tressel was an assistant, I believe that JT was not only protecting the players on the team but also Cicero himself. For an attorney to disclose information regarding a Federal Investigation could result in the attorney being in hot water. I believe that JT was in protect mode of current and former player. Doesn't make it right but makes it easier to understand. As a parent, I understand the protection. I wish the kids and Cicero wouldn't have put him in the position.
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For crying out loud, people....

The coach was WRONG. It doesn't matter how wrong everybody else was....he had an obligation to tell the truth and do the right thing.

Listen, I'm not trying to bash or vilify the guy. I do think he's a stand up guy. I also think that he was backed into a corner and had to make a tough decision, and unfortunately, it was the wrong one.

BUT

That part is over now. All the "this guy shoudn't have put him in this spot," or the "these players shouldn't have put him in that spot," doesn't work at this point. He had a chance to do the right thing and he missed the mark. Not to mention - it is PART OF THE JOB. Period. When he signed his name on the dotted line, he took on the mantle and responsibility of being the person who everyone will look to, at, and for if something goes amiss.

Please stop making him into a victim. He's a big boy, he can handle this. He ONLY coaches one of the best football teams in the country in one of the LARGEST stadiums in the country with one of the most rabid FAN BASES in the country, usually in front of MILLIONS of people watching around the world.

He screwed up. Now let's move on. Puh-leeeze stop trying to make other people out as if this is GoodFellas and Cisaro is Henry Hill.


Again - Doc Tom had a chance to cut some guy whose last name was Phillips. He didn't, instead playing him in a national championship game. All he tried to do was help the guy out....but instead, the guy is, well, a convicted felon serving a 31 year prison term.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2097095/posts

Fast forward to 2008....some guy named Bo (from some school in Ohio, lol) got hired here (shoulda had the damn job from the get go) to be the head football coach. Doc Tom (now the athletic director for the same school) recommended to that new coach that he keep a certain group of coaches left over from the previous administraton. A few years later, the fans are ready to form a posse and ride down those same leftover coaches. Doc Tom and the guy from Ohio decide to help them all find jobs BEFORE they are released from their jobs.

Sometimes helping someone else can hurt you, but if the end result establishes a legacy for you, then I say go for it. But be prepared to face the backlash that comes with it.
 
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alexhortdog95;1886888; said:
For crying out loud, people....

The coach was WRONG. It doesn't matter how wrong everybody else was....he had an obligation to tell the truth and do the right thing.

Listen, I'm not trying to bash or vilify the guy. I do think he's a stand up guy. I also think that he was backed into a corner and had to make a tough decision, and unfortunately, it was the wrong one.

BUT

That part is over now. All the "this guy shoudn't have put him in this spot," or the "these players shouldn't have put him in that spot," doesn't work at this point. He had a chance to do the right thing and he missed the mark. Not to mention - it is PART OF THE JOB. Period. When he signed his name on the dotted line, he took on the mantle and responsibility of being the person who everyone will look to, at, and for if something goes amiss.

Please stop making him into a victim. He's a big boy, he can handle this. He ONLY coaches one of the best football teams in the country in one of the LARGEST stadiums in the country with one of the most rabid FAN BASES in the country, usually in front of MILLIONS of people watching around the world.

He screwed up. Now let's move on. Puh-leeeze stop trying to make other people out as if this is GoodFellas and Cisaro is Henry Hill.
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We have zero idea if it was the wrong one because we don't have enough information. We don't know if Tressel passed this information onto anyone else, we don't know what role the FBI played, we don't know what role confidentiality played into it. When/if we get more information, then I think it's probably the case he made the relatively wrong decision; but there is a large gap of information.

Currently, what I know is that Tressel was given information that was semi-pertinent to a federal drug/criminal investigation. And I know that because of that information and his, or somebody else's, ultimate reaction to it he violated NCAA compliance bylaws. We know that the predicament he was in had consequences and he's paying for that. But whether that was the wrong decision doesn't seem clear to me.

Federal investigation****NCAA compliance. But I doubt it's that black and white.

What I think is likely is that with the sensitivity that ought to be given to the issue when given information that came from an FBI case, Tressel shouldn't have been making any decisions on how to react with it, but instead a lawyer. Maybe even an unfrozen caveman...
 
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Diego-Bucks;1886901; said:
We have zero idea if it was the wrong one because we don't have enough information. We don't know if Tressel passed this information onto anyone else, we don't know what role the FBI played, we don't know what role confidentiality played into it. When/if we get more information, then I think it's probably the case he made the relatively wrong decision; but there is a large gap of information.

Currently, what I know is that Tressel was given information that was semi-pertinent to a federal drug/criminal investigation. And I know that because of that information and his, or somebody else's, ultimate reaction to it he violated NCAA compliance bylaws. We know that the predicament he was in had consequences and he's paying for that. But whether that was the wrong decision doesn't seem clear to me.

Federal investigation****NCAA compliance. But I doubt it's that black and white.

What I think is likely is that with the sensitivity that ought to be given to the issue when given information that came from an FBI case, Tressel shouldn't have been making any decisions on how to react with it, but instead a lawyer. Maybe even an unfrozen caveman...
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Let me ask this question, then:

Does anyone think that Coach was the ONLY school employee that knew about this FBI investigation?
 
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Diego-Bucks;1886904; said:
I have no idea. I don't get paid to think. Your strange world frightens and confuses me. When I see the FBI, I just want to run to the hills... or whatever.
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LOLZ, funny. Maybe Coach got an email that some guy named Bower working with a group called CTU was involved - and crapped a brick.
 
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Scarlet&GreyFvr;1886874; said:
With Cicero being a former player while Tressel was an assistant, I believe that JT was not only protecting the players on the team but also Cicero himself. For an attorney to disclose information regarding a Federal Investigation could result in the attorney being in hot water. I believe that JT was in protect mode of current and former player. Doesn't make it right but makes it easier to understand. As a parent, I understand the protection. I wish the kids and Cicero wouldn't have put him in the position.
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The problem is JT was an AD at one time, he knows what to do in these situations. JT is not a cop, he's not a lawyer, but he has those resources at his fingertips. This whole affair is out of character of the man I know, and very disappointing. I'm having a hard time believing this story the more I hear about it....
 
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alexhortdog95;1886888; said:
BUT

That part is over now. All the "this guy shoudn't have put him in this spot," or the "these players shouldn't have put him in that spot," doesn't work at this point. He had a chance to do the right thing and he missed the mark. Not to mention - it is PART OF THE JOB. Period. When he signed his name on the dotted line, he took on the mantle and responsibility of being the person who everyone will look to, at, and for if something goes amiss.

Please stop making him into a victim. He's a big boy, he can handle this. He ONLY coaches one of the best football teams in the country in one of the LARGEST stadiums in the country with one of the most rabid FAN BASES in the country, usually in front of MILLIONS of people watching around the world.

He screwed up. Now let's move on. Puh-leeeze stop trying to make other people out as if this is GoodFellas and Cisaro is Henry Hill.
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Hey, we're the Ohio State and Jim Tressel fans here, so we're the ones who have to come to terms with this personally as it affects our relationship with the program we love so dearly. I think it's reasonable for us to consider any mitigating factors outside of simplistic right-or-wrong and NCAA ramifications. I care about and respect Tressel not only as a football coach but also as a person, so it's important to me to take into account all of the context of this situation--and that can include some anger at scumbags like Cicero and Rife for their roles in this whole thing.
 
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BayBuck;1886908; said:
Hey, we're the Ohio State and Jim Tressel fans here, so we're the ones who have to come to terms with this personally as it affects our relationship with the program we love so dearly. I think it's reasonable for us to consider any mitigating factors outside of simplistic right-or-wrong and NCAA ramifications. I care about and respect Tressel not only as a football coach but also as a person, so it's important to me to take into account all of the context of this situation--and that can include some anger at scumbags like Cicero and Rife for their roles in this whole thing.
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I gotcha. I can respect that, trust.

Guess I'm used to this guy, now (thanks, btw, tOSU, LOL):

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