Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[BB73]

Official.site video of the press conference.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Agree, I'm of the opinion that he should sit the entire season and consider himself lucky. Really feel the ncaa is going to add to his stretch.

I just read the e-mails. I'm gonna take a hit on this, but it looks to me like the drug excuse is just that - an excuse. It was not the main focus of the e-mails. The gist of the e-mails involved the stuff that was signed and sold - possibility for free tats or cash - an about the rings and memorabilia sold or exchanged at the tat parlor.

The lawyer did not e-mail to Tress and say the players were being investigated as possible drug suspects. The lawyer in the e-mail said that they were doing exactly what they did in tat gate.

Tress looks much worse when you read this stuff. It is inexcusable. I think the penalty is too light, and I think the press conference comes off as misleading at worst, and disingenuous at best. Once people read the e-mails - the failure to report will look self serving for reasons keeping kids eligible. I do not know Tress' reasons, and you can take him at his word, but after reading the e-mails I do not buy it that it played out like it is being portrayed in the conference. I'm sorry to say it.

And I do not think that the NCAA will go along with the 2 games. I think it will be worse. And it should be. Fire away.

 

[Bill Lucas]

Just like in numerous big games over the past 5 years, Jim Tressel Choked when it was all on the line! Though, I still completely back Tressel and this is just another bump in the road to make 2011 a magical NC winning year!

I'm not a mod but your post may be a good place to point out that we do NOT bash players or coaches on Buckeye Planet.

So please, keep your "choke" comments to yourself.

 

[Dryden]

So the confidentiality requested of JT was not so much designed to preserve an ongoing federal investigation as to protect the attorney, who was basically breaching his duty of confidentiality to his client/prospective client. In that context, I find it very difficult to believe Tressel believed he couldn't and/or shouldn't report this information to compliance officers.

My conclusion is that Tress didn't go to anybody because the attorney was probably a close friend, and Tress knew if he gave up the info it could land the attorney in hot water.

This isn't over.

As for Wetzel's source to the original Yahoo! story, I'm guessing now it was just some schmoe at NCAA compliance. Somebody over there obviously likes to talk, and is probably the same person that tipped Cowherd a week ago.

 

[Buckeye86]

Agree, I'm of the opinion that he should sit the entire season and consider himself lucky. Really feel the ncaa is going to add to his stretch.

I am fine with bumping Heacock up to HC and letting Fickell get a crack at solo d coordinator for however long it takes. That would actually be pretty enjoyable from a purely defensive standpoint.

I also think it would add a lot of fire to the players. "Win one for Tressel!" and so on.

 

[Gatorubet]

If Doug Archie did not have his client's approval to e-mail Tress, he needs to get in on this job training money before it goes away. You do NOT send that stuff about your client to anyone without permission. And I can think of no good reason for a client to want you to do that - spread that kind of info about you around to coaches of all people. If anything, you want to have some bodies the feds don't know about to cut a deal, not warn them. Very weird.

 

[Jagdaddy]

If Doug Archie did not have his client's approval to e-mail Tress, he needs to get in on this job training money before it goes away. You do NOT send that stuff about your client to anyone without permission. And I can think of no good reason for a client to want you to do that - spread that kind of info about you around to coaches of all people. If anything, you want to have some bodies the feds don't know about to cut a deal, not warn them. Very weird.

Doug Archie's an OSU compliance guy: The attorney's somebody else, although I had to google to figure that out myself.

 

[BearBuck27]

If Doug Archie did not have his client's approval to e-mail Tress, he needs to get in on this job training money before it goes away. You do NOT send that stuff about your client to anyone without permission. And I can think of no good reason for a client to want you to do that - spread that kind of info about you around to coaches of all people. If anything, you want to have some bodies the feds don't know about to cut a deal, not warn them. Very weird.

http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=17300&ATCLID=1058120

Doug Archie isn't the lawyer. He's an OSU compliance employee.

 

[dragurd]

And I assume that person won't have a job much longer.

However ORD I don't see the NCAA coming a much much harsher penalty than OSU's especially with their weak response to the Pearl Investigation. I see them handling both in similar light so if they come down and smack OSU they better smack Pearl as well. However since OSU claims they have been working with the NCAA on this since Jan I have to have a feeling OSU knows what the NCAA would see as an acceptable punishment and I doubt they completely missed the mark so maybe another game or 2 at most.

 

[Gatorubet]

http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=17300&ATCLID=1058120

Doug Archie isn't the lawyer. He's an OSU compliance employee.

TY. Gotcha. I guess his name is on the top of the paper print out of the e-mail threads because he investigated it. Breach of client confidences still applies.

 

[DaveyBoy]

Agree, I'm of the opinion that he should sit the entire season and consider himself lucky. Really feel the ncaa is going to add to his stretch.

Man I really hate this. I have to admit, it's very difficult to defend JT in this one. He completely messed up....which is completely out of character.

His integrity will always be questioned outside the OSU nation...and even a little inside. Sad sad sad day.

 

[BB73]

Agree, I'm of the opinion that he should sit the entire season and consider himself lucky. Really feel the ncaa is going to add to his stretch.

tOSU has been working with the NCAA on this since January; I don't think the decision to have a 2-game suspension was made by tOSU without having consulted Delany and the NCAA.

Thus, I think the 2-game suspension will be the final verdict.

But I already loathe all the discussion I'll hear from the talking heads over the next few months suggesting that the NCAA make it more than 2 games.

 

[billmac91]

Really disappointing.

 

[Magua]

I want to throw my remote through my TV right now watching ESPN.

All they say is "suspended for 2 games for major violation. he knew that TP and the 5 were selling stuff last april and didn't say anything"

first off, no. He only knew of TWO people selling stuff and even then did he know they were actually selling stuff or was there name just brought up in regards to being around the tat parlor that was being investigated.

Also, NOT ONCE have I heard ESPN mention the FEDERAL INVESTIGATION REGARDING DRUG TRAFFICKING FOR THE TAT SHOP and that Tressel withheld information based on confidentiality FOR that very same investigation.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK the media.

 

[Airspace]

Usually Ohio State is spot on when it comes to punishment with the NCAA. Fact that they report as soon as they knew. The fact that they worked hand in hand with the NCAA. And the fact that Ohio State is considered a model institution on reporting every incident, tells me that Ohio State will skate with Tressel missing 2 games.